"Genius lies in the unabashed pursuit of detail."
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"Genius lies in the unabashed pursuit of detail."
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
ehw!
LSI
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
Introvert.
Probablyvaluing or
valuing.
For some reason I don't think this is quite IEI, though I'm not sure why. Perhaps it's just? The concept appeals to me, but I'm sure that it's incorrect.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
I agree with this philosophy and I think it is SE oriented detail.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
WP, what happened to your unconditional love and willingness to devote all avatar-related space to Zach Braff? I miss seeing his face by your posts.
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves.
John Muir
Who's the idiot in question?
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
Me likes it.
And it's a concept I deeply relate to.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
LOLz
What idiot wants to know?
Last edited by Park; 04-16-2009 at 11:18 PM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I just realized that MikeMex and Cyclops are very similar in many ways....
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves.
John Muir
As in... not being Delta e.g.?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves.
John Muir
Here's a few other quotes by the same individual:
While I'm a firm believer in letting the music speak for itself I'm also extremely curious about the 'how and when' of things. Whenever I hear something that moves me questions sometimes come to mind. Maybe I wonder about the conception of the music, the initial inspiration or the title of a piece....etc.I tend to shy away from saying things like "my music" because I believe that everything that comes forth from us already exists somewhere out there in the universe, and the gift bestowed upon us as musicians is that of 'unveilers' of these musical truths (if you will). Far be it from me to believe that the more beautiful things that pass through me are my sole responsibility. Having said that, when I miss the mark it's probably all me!!Back in '98 I went through a long period of gut-wrenching emotional turmoil.....there was just a whole lot of loss and chaos in my life ; and at the same time, I was experiencing a lot of highs and had my share of 'fun'. I guess one could say it was like 'A Tale of Two Cities'..... "...the best of times , and it was the worst of times." One day, my friend S**** (knowing how dark I was) called me to come over to his place and lay some keys on some tracks he was working on. I immediately jumped at the chance!!!!! It would be great to get out of the house, plus it would give my mind a chance to escape and focus on something other than my problems.One of the things I love to do is to have a simple melody that is later repeated while varying the harmony against it....It really changes the meaning of it so much!! I find that really fascinating.....it's almost like placing an object in many different lighting schemes, or someone saying the same thing but meaning something different each time through tone of voice or facial expressions......It's also reminiscent of the way in which we see different sides of a person as we get to know them better.....
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Does anyone have an opinion?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Well, there used to be an NeTi on this forum that went by the nick "detail"
So my vote is SiFe.
:wink:
:tongue:
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
my guess is now IxI.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
LOL. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... priceless
You have this strange habit of showing up out of nowhere and cracking me the hell up.
And I actually remember Detail, lol
Last edited by Park; 04-21-2009 at 03:19 AM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Bummer, i can't figure out how to quote within a quote....
Time to cut and paste...
'how and when' makes me think of Te HA, though it could be other things as well, but that was my initial gut reaction. The last part there also made me think Fi creative, though again, it could be other things.While I'm a firm believer in letting the music speak for itself I'm also extremely curious about the 'how and when' of things. Whenever I hear something that moves me questions sometimes come to mind. Maybe I wonder about the conception of the music, the initial inspiration or the title of a piece....etc.
My gut reaction to this was ExFp and Ne, though, could also be other things as well.Back in '98 I went through a long period of gut-wrenching emotional turmoil.....there was just a whole lot of loss and chaos in my life ; and at the same time, I was experiencing a lot of highs and had my share of 'fun'. I guess one could say it was like 'A Tale of Two Cities'..... "...the best of times , and it was the worst of times." One day, my friend S**** (knowing how dark I was) called me to come over to his place and lay some keys on some tracks he was working on. I immediately jumped at the chance!!!!! It would be great to get out of the house, plus it would give my mind a chance to escape and focus on something other than my problems.
This person is speaking openly about their emotions with obvious images in their heads about what they are referring to, which makes me think it's Fi happening during the describing process. The best of times and worst of times comments makes me think Ne. and the jumping at the chance to escape and focus on something else...the way it's worded had me feeling EFp.
My immediate reaction was Ne/Si...though I then thought that maybe Ni might do something like that as well. Then there's the Fe mentioned would could also support the Fi creative (Fe as 8th), but then it could also suggest other types. But the last sentence of that makes me think Fi some more.One of the things I love to do is to have a simple melody that is later repeated while varying the harmony against it....It really changes the meaning of it so much!! I find that really fascinating.....it's almost like placing an object in many different lighting schemes, or someone saying the same thing but meaning something different each time through tone of voice or facial expressions......It's also reminiscent of the way in which we see different sides of a person as we get to know them better.....
So....
I'll hesitantly say that it makes me think of Fi creative, Ne, Te HA, about Si seeking.
However, I think it could also be other types as well who might say something like that. But in terms of the actual wordings, I'll go with ENFp.
However!!!
ENFp doesn't seem to fit in with the pursuit of details thing.
UNLESS the details this person is referring to is the Fi/Te details.
I'm a nosey person. When it comes to things like motivations and what inspired someone, and hows, then I ask a lot of questions to get all those juicy details I crave. So in that sense, I can see how the original quote might suggest an ENFp. But in any other sense, I have a difficult time imagining ENFp.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
You seem to have this strange habit of leaving openings laying around every time I pop in to see what's going on.
It's like I can't NOT say something silly!!
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Those analysis are very interesting. Thanks, ann.
My thoughts were along the lines of that the person is probably an introvert. The way he talks about himself and his thoughts seems very modest yet very personal, deep and profound. (Not saying extroverts are necessarily shallow.)
The "how and when of things" he mentions is very interesting, but I can't figure out what it could mean in Socionics terms. I initially thought it had something to do with Ni, but I'm not sure. It could very well be Te HA. And I don't quite get his point. Does this declared curiosity about the how and when of things imply that he's naturally unaware of (/incapable of perceiving) those things, or is he just a "nosey" person (as you say) and wants to know?
I think the way he talks about it is interesting because it makes you genuinely empathize. I admire the unabashed sincerity.
Yea, I thought Ne (strong/valued) for that part as well. It sounds like something an Ne ego would very likely say, imo.
Well, the way I interpret and personally relate to that quote is through Si I guess. I pay a lot of attention to detail in what I do, sometimes even for the sake of neglecting the big picture or the purpose of what I'm doing. I always refine and modify small and tiny pieces of the puzzle I'm assembling in accordance to my own sense and critical eye. I know that small details make up the big picture and I'm never ashamed to purse them. I know I can never truly reach perfection, but at least I'm confident in my strivings.
Last edited by Park; 04-21-2009 at 05:43 AM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I think it's a little difficult to tell based on the quotes given.Those analysis are very interesting. Thanks, ann.
My thoughts were along the lines of that the person is probably an introvert. The way he talks about himself and his thoughts seems very modest yet very personal, deep and profound. (Not saying extroverts are necessarily shallow.
The "how and when of things" he mentions is very interesting, but I can't figure out what it could mean in Socionics terms. I initially thought it had something to do with Ni, but I'm not sure. It could very well be Te HA. And I don't quite get his point. Does this declared curiosity about the how and when of things imply that he's naturally unaware of (/incapable of perceiving) those things, or is he just a "nosey" person (as you say) and wants to know?
However, this person is obviously really into music. Creating music, not just listening to it. As such, it would benefit him to figure out how the musician created whatever it is he created, and what the inspirations could have been behind it, etc. If he has this information, or could figure out what could possibly have been going on in the musician's mind or such, then that would give him ideas in terms of creating his own music.
The 'how and when' referred to music.
Specifically, it seems, music that moves him.While I'm a firm believer in letting the music speak for itself I'm also extremely curious about the 'how and when' of things. Whenever I hear something that moves me questions sometimes come to mind. Maybe I wonder about the conception of the music, the initial inspiration or the title of a piece....etc.
My understanding of this particular quote is that normally he accepts the music he hears as is, without trying to understand it nor pick it apart, nor look for symbolism or trying to figure out what moods its creating, etc. (He very well could be doing these things but just doesn't mention it.)
But when a piece moves him...(could be referring to Fi or Fe..or even other functions), then he becomes interested in it, questions pop into his mind, and then he starts looking into the hows and whens and inspirations etc.
My initial reaction is to interpret that as F creative being triggered into a T HA. But I recognize that I have biases and as such might be projecting my own experiences and motivations into the quote. If I attempt to separate my experiences and such from my reading of the quote, then I can see that there could be other things going on that I'm not particularly familiar with.
Just as some people saw the word "detail" in the first quote and jumped to the assumptions that it referred to Ti or Se. (I had done that initially too, before you added the other quotes.)
However, I think that the initial quote can apply to ANY type, as each type focuses on certain types of details. Whether it's the details of a theory, of a relationship, of a political campaign, of a person's life, of a vehicle, etc. Each type has their own details that they deal with. So the initial quote given can apply to any type.
With the added quotes, we get a better sense of the person, at least in terms of him and music. His writing seems to allow for multiple approaches (types) to get something out of it. So I can easily see different types identifying with this guy's writings.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
I think that if we look at the quote as being applicable to any type, and recognize that each type deals with their own types of details, then the quote is an awesome quote, imo.
An example,"Genius lies in the unabashed pursuit of detail."
A person who unabashedly pursues Si details will be viewed as being a genius in Si things, particularly if those Si details come natural for the person, and difficult for the one viewing him as a genius.
The same thing can be said of Fi details, Te details, Ti details, etc etc.
If we didn't have people pursuing those Si and/or Te details, where would us poor NeFi be?
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Makes sense.
I can't NOT agree with this.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Here's a few pics of the person in question.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Of course it's the last picture that's going to draw my attention.
The first one is a posed picture.
The second one had me smiling. These seem to be guys that he actually likes and they seem kinda fun to hang around.
The third, I love the concentration on his face as he does his thing. Can see his mind working away... I love that stuff.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
IEI?
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .
That is wrong, and backwards actually....
The unabashed pursuit of detail lies in a genius.
Plenty of people seek detail, and that does not make them genius. But in the quoted circumstance, any genius will seek detail.
I think tis quite possible.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
"(...) Goodness is not rewarded here but it is somehow healing because the worst kind of misfortune is also comforting for those alive. That's what stories do, they heal us. Fiction comforts us when we are distressed. While novels comfort an individual, Epics comfort a community, a Nation and even Civilization."
That beautiful quote Is from a Youtuber called Fiction Beast :
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