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    Default Enneagram type 4 disintegration to type 2

    So Fours disintegrate into Two and looking back I can notice this in my life.

    What is this disintegration? As in, what causes it and how can I avoid it? If it's a bad process at all. I recognise it in myself when I feel the need to do something to see the recognition of love in others, I can only assume this is what it talks about.

    I also (believe) I recognise my integration into a One. Last night we had some trouble in the Halls of Residence (Student Accommodation) with some "friends of friends" and when dealing with them, I felt righteous and heroic (forgive the language, if necessary).

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    You know. Fuck it. I was going to say something but I'm beginning to think, all of this is just bullshit. Psychology, God, anything ideal. Or even "Educational." It all amounts to nothing, compared to raw survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    You know. Fuck it. I was going to say something but I'm beginning to think, all of this is just bullshit. Psychology, God, anything ideal. Or even "Educational." It all amounts to nothing, compared to raw survival.
    Essentially you are right, and if you are that interested in survival you could always arrange to have someone drop you off in Antarctica or something. But survival is already taken care of for most of us, so we amuse ourselves with these other things in order to enrich our lives with some sort of meaning. :/
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    Okay then.

    But can socionics give your life meaning. How?

    Fine I'll just play along *grumble grumble*

    4s disintegrate into 2s because they are naturally so helpy, in that kind of therapist way. But that's not what they need to be doing. They need to be looking out for humanity as a whole, (principled and objective, like 1s) and help them that way.

    If a 4 tries to be all subjective, too personal with people- they tend to turn people off because they literally feel other people's emotions as if they are their own, so any advice they give people personally, like a therapist- is too emotionally charged/angsty. It doesn't help anybody.

    I explained this to Gilly and others in another thread.

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    So what's disintegration? As in, what is the cause and effect?

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    You tend to show signs of your "disintegration" type's behaviors as you become less mentally/emotionally balanced.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    You tend to show signs of your "disintegration" type's behaviors as you become less mentally/emotionally balanced.

    Gotcha.

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