I have been lurking around here for alittle while now, finally decided to join. So... Hello.
I am an ISTP
Socionics SLI
Cognitive Functions - Ti/Se/Fi/Si
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I have been lurking around here for alittle while now, finally decided to join. So... Hello.
I am an ISTP
Socionics SLI
Cognitive Functions - Ti/Se/Fi/Si
MBTI - ISTP
SOCIONICS - SLI
"Perhaps it is I who understand best why man alone laughs. He suffers so great that he had to invent laughter." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Welcome, CareLess. You just joined an addictive and interesting forum!
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
--> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Wait, what? SLI isOriginally Posted by CareLess
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
MBTI rabble.Wait, what? SLI is
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
uhh
ummmm
wat.
The end is nigh
They why'd he call himself SLI?...
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Maybe he's super new to Socionics and doesn't understand the functions yet.
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves.
John Muir
Okay, I think I'll try to clear this up.. I took MBTI personality test, and I received ISTP (I've taken several, and it's always this).
I've taken Socionics, and i've recieved SLI, which contradicts the above, I know.
But lastly, I took a cognitive processes test, which is the theory for both, and I got
Ti/Fi/Si/Se - If i remember correctly, Ti and Se are ISTP traits, while Fi and Si are ISTJ traits (In MBTI, in socionics, the P/J are swapped).
Because of this, it's very close between the two, but the cognitive processes test said I was still ISTP despite this.. so that's what i'm going with.. If this does not make sense for some reason, please explain so I understand the problem.
The website for the cognitive processes test is here : http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/as...velop_old.HTML
MBTI - ISTP
SOCIONICS - SLI
"Perhaps it is I who understand best why man alone laughs. He suffers so great that he had to invent laughter." - Friedrich Nietzsche
okay...
If ur MBTI ISTP (by the functions) then you're socionics ISTj
Now the valued function for an ISTj are Ti Se Ni Fe
And you would not be an SLI you'd be a LSI
Well you'll prolly end up being socionically ass-raped about your type anyways soon, so dont get all certain lol.
The end is nigh
Yeah. These people still haven't realized that I'm an ESE yet
Find someone smart to talk to.
Or the same things... I wasn't aware of the cognitive processes test.Be nice to new people who have obviously not yet read as much as you!
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Yay Newbie Doobie. I hope its a dual not a conflictor
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Not really. It just happens that introverted types are more often the same type in both typologies.
MBTI Ti =/= Socionics Ti, and the same goes for all the functions. They have different descriptions, the socionics ones being closer to Jung's original definitions...
I, for instance, am an ISTP in both MBTI and Socionics.
So the j/p does not necessarily switch. It can, but it doesn't have to. Most of the time it does not.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I suggest all you n00bs read this:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...bti-types.html
Have a good day.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
It does not. Read the link I posted above.
There's no such thing as a theory for both. MBTI and Socionics are different, unrelated theories. They only share the same roots in Carl Jung's work.
I've taken cognitive assessments before and they have all been based upon the Myers-Briggs typology. I will assume the one you've taken was too.
This is like a 19th century myth, lol.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Fixed.
Timing fail, Schlomo.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Oh, Winterpark, you're so funny.
Take your sarcasm and shove it right up your arse.
Last edited by Park; 04-11-2009 at 01:29 PM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I agree with WP. It's not as easy at just switching the j/p when moving from the MBTI to Socionics. The functions descriptions are intrinsically different and have very different descriptions. I would just disregard all of the MBTI function descriptions, haha.
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves.
John Muir
<3
And no, that wasn't sarcasm. You're my fourth-favourite type in the socion!
P.S.
Dear BnD, being a Supervision transmitter is a conscious decision. Thanks. Bye.
Had to make sure. :wink:
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
hit me on facebook mayne,
D-SEI
This is me and my dual being scientific together
Yeah, Winterpark I freaking know.
Thats why I said "Dont get so certain about your type."
Also, there is at the most a poor correlation between MBTI and socionics. So I don't think an ISTP is necessarily an ISTp either.
The end is nigh
I do not.I suggest you read a bit of WikiSocion, its a good resource.
Anyway, welcome and good luck. Read Jung's Psychological Types as soon as you possibly can.
Also, socionix.com is a great site.
Wond'ring aloud, How we feel today. Last night sipped the sunset, My hand in her hair. We are our own saviours, As we start both our hearts, Beating life Into each other. ~Ian Anderson
I'll add to the cacophony of differing perspectives by proposing that you read machine translations of Russian articles on Model T.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
The local derivative of ridiculousness is positive.
Translation: It's getting more and more ridiculous around here.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
okay, thanks for the links I'll start reading so i can get fluent in the socionics system. oh thanks for the welcome to...
MBTI - ISTP
SOCIONICS - SLI
"Perhaps it is I who understand best why man alone laughs. He suffers so great that he had to invent laughter." - Friedrich Nietzsche
It doesn't contradict. Most likely: ISTP = SLI
mbti's functions are a mess, therefor you got confused.
Last edited by Jarno; 04-12-2009 at 09:36 PM.
If you did, then you wouldn't have said this:
"If ur MBTI ISTP (by the functions) then you're socionics ISTj"
No one said that an ISTP is necessarily an ISTp, nor do I see why you would think that.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
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