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    I have been lurking around here for alittle while now, finally decided to join. So... Hello.

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    Welcome, CareLess. You just joined an addictive and interesting forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CareLess View Post
    I have been lurking around here for alittle while now, finally decided to join. So... Hello.

    I am an ISTP
    Socionics SLI
    Cognitive Functions - Ti/Se/Fi/Si
    Wait, what? SLI is .



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Wait, what? SLI is .
    MBTI rabble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CareLess View Post
    I have been lurking around here for alittle while now, finally decided to join. So... Hello.

    I am an ISTP
    Socionics SLI
    Cognitive Functions - Ti/Se/Fi/Si

    uhh

    ummmm


    wat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamajama View Post
    MBTI rabble.
    They why'd he call himself SLI?...



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    Maybe he's super new to Socionics and doesn't understand the functions yet.
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    Okay, I think I'll try to clear this up.. I took MBTI personality test, and I received ISTP (I've taken several, and it's always this).

    I've taken Socionics, and i've recieved SLI, which contradicts the above, I know.

    But lastly, I took a cognitive processes test, which is the theory for both, and I got

    Ti/Fi/Si/Se - If i remember correctly, Ti and Se are ISTP traits, while Fi and Si are ISTJ traits (In MBTI, in socionics, the P/J are swapped).

    Because of this, it's very close between the two, but the cognitive processes test said I was still ISTP despite this.. so that's what i'm going with.. If this does not make sense for some reason, please explain so I understand the problem.

    The website for the cognitive processes test is here : http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/as...velop_old.HTML
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    okay...

    If ur MBTI ISTP (by the functions) then you're socionics ISTj

    Now the valued function for an ISTj are Ti Se Ni Fe

    And you would not be an SLI you'd be a LSI


    Well you'll prolly end up being socionically ass-raped about your type anyways soon, so dont get all certain lol.
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    Yeah. These people still haven't realized that I'm an ESE yet

    Find someone smart to talk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha View Post
    Be nice to new people who have obviously not yet read as much as you!
    Or the same things... I wasn't aware of the cognitive processes test.



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    Yay Newbie Doobie. I hope its a dual not a conflictor
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    okay...

    If ur MBTI ISTP (by the functions) then you're socionics ISTj

    Now the valued function for an ISTj are Ti Se Ni Fe

    And you would not be an SLI you'd be a LSI
    Not really. It just happens that introverted types are more often the same type in both typologies.

    MBTI Ti =/= Socionics Ti, and the same goes for all the functions. They have different descriptions, the socionics ones being closer to Jung's original definitions...

    I, for instance, am an ISTP in both MBTI and Socionics.

    So the j/p does not necessarily switch. It can, but it doesn't have to. Most of the time it does not.
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    I suggest all you n00bs read this:

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...bti-types.html

    Have a good day.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CareLess View Post
    Okay, I think I'll try to clear this up.. I took MBTI personality test, and I received ISTP (I've taken several, and it's always this).

    I've taken Socionics, and i've recieved SLI, which contradicts the above, I know.
    It does not. Read the link I posted above.

    Quote Originally Posted by CareLess View Post
    But lastly, I took a cognitive processes test, which is the theory for both
    There's no such thing as a theory for both. MBTI and Socionics are different, unrelated theories. They only share the same roots in Carl Jung's work.

    I've taken cognitive assessments before and they have all been based upon the Myers-Briggs typology. I will assume the one you've taken was too.

    Quote Originally Posted by CareLess View Post
    In MBTI, in socionics, the P/J are swapped
    This is like a 19th century myth, lol.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    This is like a 19th century myth. You have a lot to learn, Padawan.
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Fixed.
    Timing fail, Schlomo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Oh, Winterpark, you're so funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Oh, Winterpark, you're so funny.
    Take your sarcasm and shove it right up your arse.
    Last edited by Park; 04-11-2009 at 02:29 PM.
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    I agree with WP. It's not as easy at just switching the j/p when moving from the MBTI to Socionics. The functions descriptions are intrinsically different and have very different descriptions. I would just disregard all of the MBTI function descriptions, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Take your sarcasm and shove it right up your arse.
    <3

    And no, that wasn't sarcasm. You're my fourth-favourite type in the socion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    <3

    And no, that wasn't sarcasm.
    Had to make sure. :wink:
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    <3

    And no, that wasn't sarcasm. You're my fourth-favourite type in the socion!

    P.S.

    Dear BnD, being a Supervision transmitter is a conscious decision. Thanks. Bye.
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    Yeah, Winterpark I freaking know.

    Thats why I said "Dont get so certain about your type."

    Also, there is at the most a poor correlation between MBTI and socionics. So I don't think an ISTP is necessarily an ISTp either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isha View Post
    I suggest you read a bit of WikiSocion, its a good resource.
    I do not.

    Anyway, welcome and good luck. Read Jung's Psychological Types as soon as you possibly can.

    Also, socionix.com is a great site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    I do not.

    Anyway, welcome and good luck. Read Jung's Psychological Types as soon as you possibly can.

    Also, socionix.com is a great site.
    I'll add to the cacophony of differing perspectives by proposing that you read machine translations of Russian articles on Model T.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    And I suggest that you read this article: here
    The local derivative of ridiculousness is positive.

    Translation: It's getting more and more ridiculous around here.



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    okay, thanks for the links I'll start reading so i can get fluent in the socionics system. oh thanks for the welcome to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CareLess View Post
    Okay, I think I'll try to clear this up.. I took MBTI personality test, and I received ISTP (I've taken several, and it's always this).

    I've taken Socionics, and i've recieved SLI, which contradicts the above, I know.
    It doesn't contradict. Most likely: ISTP = SLI

    mbti's functions are a mess, therefor you got confused.
    Last edited by Jarno; 04-12-2009 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Yeah, Winterpark I freaking know.
    If you did, then you wouldn't have said this:


    "If ur MBTI ISTP (by the functions) then you're socionics ISTj"


    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    So I don't think an ISTP is necessarily an ISTp either.
    No one said that an ISTP is necessarily an ISTp, nor do I see why you would think that.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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