Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread: Massive Socionics Project

  1. #1
    Haikus
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    MI
    TIM
    IEI-Ni
    Posts
    10,060
    Mentioned
    223 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default Massive Socionics Project

    We should compile a list, using every user's information/life experiences as input to explain each function. Simply explain what each function means IN YOUR OWN WORDS the best you can. Try to be detailed. 'Internal statics of fields' doesn't really say anything at all. Don't be too quick in your descriptions, but don't confuse people by being too wordy, either.

    It's okay if the answers contradict each other. We'll smooth that out later, as a group- to come up with the best possible answer.

    You might think this has already been done before. But we all obviously have some insights that are different than what it's in the mainstay sites. (Truthfully, a lot of that is shit anyway) We all have certain perceptions that diverge from the mainstream socionics club. And that's okay. But if something doesn't evolve, it's bound to die out.

    Your type and quadra will be taken into consideration (it might be silly for me to talk about Fi when I don't value it as much as Fe, for example) - up to a certain point, as well as how many posts you have and your general reputation in the forum. I will take Gilly's point of view more seriously than say, greenlantern's - but the degree of this isn't an exact science. I can't stress this enough, final results will be agreed upon by the *entire* community until EVERYBODY's more or less happy with what we concoct. Impossible? I didn't say it was going to be easy. But we need to do this.

    This is *just* about functions btw. Keep it on topic. If this exercise proves to be a success, we can then use the same PEER-REVIEWED, scientific method for type descriptions and anything we want. Then, if somebody says something asshatery about a function that is clearly too much of a disconnect with the objective, peer-reviewed material we have available- we can properly educate them. New, insightful information can be taken into consideration though, and will be changed accordingly if somebody per chance says something truly awe-inspiring the community agrees with.

    AND DO NOT ARGUE SOMEBODY ELSE'S DESCRIPTIONS. This is just what the functions are according to *You.* We will argue about the 'Final Draft' *later*. There will be plenty of time for that. Do not criticize what somebody else wrote AT ALL, you got that? If somebody criticizes you, don't criticize them back. Obvious trollers ie cpig saying 'THIS DOESN'T EXIST YOU SOCIALIST FAGGOTS (I don't care if it does or not - it's too interesting to pass up) will be ignored. As well as anything so mental masturbatory none of us can understand what you mean. But don't be afraid to be smart. You should 'know your audience' when you describe a function. Speak in a blended way that can balance all our personalities if you can.

    The more people that participate in this, the merrier. This thread should be LONG. Then, as a community- we can streamline the information to make the best god fucking darnit description of all the functions available. We will write up a description of each function using a comprehensive list of the information shared. I will then re-draft it many times with the community's help, before it's finalized as official.

    (This method still has a lot of biases that I'm not aware of yet, I know- but we will come to that in time. Like I said this is meant to take time and work, and effort.)

    It's time to get some objectivity up in this bitch. It's time to MOVE somewhere where this shit. It is time, for SOCIONICS!

    Proceed....

  2. #2
    Haikus
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    MI
    TIM
    IEI-Ni
    Posts
    10,060
    Mentioned
    223 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ni: Introverted Intuition. Ni is about introverted intuition. Introverted: gaining power from your self, pre-occupied with your own thoughts and feelings... and combined with intuition, instinct etc...it's about self-analyizations and exploring inner worlds and your hunches. Since one can only find meaning in the world by looking inside one self, it's about deeper meanings too. Ni is never about what is right/wrong, but about what is meaningful. Ni also understands (though not necessarily effects or directs) the 'inner workings' (what makes something tick in and of itself, regardless of what people say SHOULD or DOES happen) of phenomenon quite naturally.

    Ne: Extroverted Intuition: Ne is about projecting and understanding the intuition/inner worlds of everybody in the world. It's about combining and balancing what multiple people (extroversion- gaining energy from others) think about a given subject. That's why ENFps have a tendency to be so diplomatic, docile and "Politically correct" when it comes to all the issues we face in the world. They can't help this, that's just how Ne is manifested.

    Se: Extroverted Sensing: This one is a bit tricky (and is technically the most poorly-named function in the socion, semantically speaking) for a lot of people to understand since, inherently all functions are psychological. So psychological in fact, it's hard to ever accurately describe a function in words as even in writing I am externalizing things. You can't really think of extroverted sensing as some tactile purely 'physical/corporeal' process of basic touch even if that's tempting to do so. When looked at psychologically, all extroverted sensing really translates to is one's own psychological *will-power* and also psychologically sensing the will-power in others. That's why Se-egos act quickly and with so much self-confidence.

    Si: Introverted Sensing: Describes how well you yourself, psychologically (which in ways gets translated to physical manifestations) respond to the comfort in *everything* in the universe. Extreme, but ultimately true- as one really can't dilute what Si *purely* is in any way. Not just 'how good the room looks', but also how sharp or soft people are being in their psychological communications etc. (Fe is sometimes confused with Si, but as you know from my behavior here I rarely care about the comfort of others as much as I worry about the emotional impact.)

    Fe: Extroverted feeling: Extroversion (getting energy from others) and feelings, well you know what those are. So Fe is about getting energy from the feeling of others. It's really that simple. People with 'good Fe' get energy from how other people are feeling. They want people to feel okay because they get psychological energy from that. They want to obey certain rules of etiquette and social norms, not because they're trying to be too 'politically correct' and annoying, or 'Too Fake' but because they themselves are empowered if they can direct the mood of a situation. I kinda said the same thing three times, but that's another example of my Fe manifesting. Fe is about obvious emphasis. But it doesn't naturally embellish something so much as to not make it true any more.

    Fi: Introverted feeling: Okay see the pattern here. Introversion, gaining energy from your self....and feelings...again, you know what those are. So Fi is about getting energy from your own feelings. Which translates to how much you like or hate a certain object. It also gives you an awareness of what is important to other people, which can be similar to Ni/Se but more erm 'relationship-orientated' and more naturally objective.

    Te: Te is about psychologically projecting and understanding what is objectively and purely true. Not what you yourself think of facts- or even your personal viewpoint AT ALL, but basically what something purely objectively *is.* That's why Te is so business-like. Te-egos easily synthesize and construct all mental information from outside sources, being easily able to smooth out any 'junk' or subjective filters that would get in the way of directly expressing the situation and exposing everything for what it is. That's not to say that Te is like anti-emotion or anything, just that because of the inherent know-how at externally categorizing intelligence- it easily appears that way. ESTjs and ENTjs' own subjective feelings about Te (and lots of other things) can be very strong, passionate and romantic, but psychologically, as the function itself -- that's not what it is about.

    Ti: Ti is about raw, pure intelligence basically. How 'raw-ly' smart you are, how easily you can mentally categorize and compartmentalize information (like all intelligent people do), such as professors/educators. (Not necessarily paying any privy to the expression or externalization thereof, which is Te) Yes everybody is smart in their own way and even Ti-egos will do stupid shit. But Ti as a function describes inner, innate intelligence....kind of the building block (reality tunnels) in the mind. As such it also connects the other functions together in the mind, naturally. Ti is the glue, and the reason why Ti-egos are so misunderstood/socially awkward, is exactly because of this. It's basically smartness in a vacuum. When looked at Ti directly, it isn't sexy nor does it try to be. But it serves as the inner urge in us all that makes us think about everything we're doing.

  3. #3
    Currently God Brilliand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Nevada
    TIM
    LII
    Posts
    4,246
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    PEER-REVIEWED
    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    DO NOT ARGUE SOMEBODY ELSE'S DESCRIPTIONS
    CONTRADICTION



    LII-Ne

    "Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
    - Blair Houghton

    Johari

  4. #4
    sigma's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Romania
    Posts
    641
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    CONTRADICTION
    I guess that you missed the part with We will argue about the 'Final Draft' *later*.
    "What is love?"
    "The total absence of fear," said the Master.
    "What is it we fear?"
    "Love," said the Master.

    I chose Love

  5. #5
    Sauron, The Great Enemy ArchonAlarion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    POOPLAIR
    TIM
    Alpha NT 5w4 so/sx
    Posts
    4,399
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hah

    I was thinking of this exact same thing BnD, a few weeks ago.
    OPERATION POOPLAIR

    Now conscripting, for more information come here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...48#post1003048

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •