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    eh. they're okay.
    the guy looks ethical... IxFP?
    the girl looks sensory...ESxx?
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    Guy - ISTj
    Girl - INFp
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Guy - ISTj
    Girl - INFp
    Yeah, guy looks beta. Even reminds me of Hitta somewhat. ISTj is definitely plausible.

    I want to say Fe-EIE for the girl, but I'm not sure. IEI could work, too.
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    I say ISTj because he looks extremely similar to a guy I've known since the age of 5, that I am certain is ISTj.
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    I'm sure the girl is INFp

    I'd say the guy is ESTp...but he looks SF too...I dunno

    Is the guy Russian?
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    i actually kind of agree with those of you who have said beta for the guy, i guess i am inclined to think ISTj>INFp>ESTp. i think he looks like what we stereotypically think of as ethical, but i don't think he is? anyhow most guy INFps, as i've noticed, look more sullen and/or dreamy in photos. beta introvert at any rate.
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    The girl doesn't look IEI to me at all. I would say maybe SEE, SLE, EIE, or ESE. The guy could be LSI, SEI, IEI...not sure.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I guess I'll say EIE for her and LSI for him.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Good stuff so far... some of you are really close.

    Shall I say what I think their types actually are, or more guesses first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    Good stuff so far... some of you are really close.

    Shall I say what I think their types actually are, or more guesses first?
    I think most of us think she's beta NF and he's beta. Perhaps it's time to tell us their types
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    She is extrovert, he is introvert; that much is obvious.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Gilly nailed it:

    Guy is LSI; girl is EIE

    I went to hs w the guy, and now see him every so often [very sporadically] out and about. I don't know the girl closely, but from what I've seen she seems very EIE and is similar to my EIE friend. They are, btw, a very happy-seeming couple [like really happy, not like those good-looking couples that seem to be acting]. Duals

    The reason I posted pics of them is what implied mentioned: I think the guy looks like what you'd [or I'd, at least] usually think of as an ethical type, but he isn't really. And the girl does sort of look SF - I could see that too - but is NF instead.

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    Haven't seen any responses, just the pictures, but this one is obvious: Se-LSI guy and Fe-EIE girl.

    Edit: sweet! haha... It's true, what you write, SoS... Se-LSIs can seem ethical. They're very sensitive, touchy, etc... (The guys more so than the girls, somewhat counter-intuitively.)

    This is a great picture for people wondering about examples of these types.

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    I am a GOD.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    They're very sensitive, touchy, etc... (The guys more so than the girls, somewhat counter-intuitively.)
    SO TRUE! I have sort of been figuring out what Se-LSIs are like lately, and I am sort of shocked at how the girls all seem like hard-asses, made of ice, and yet the guys mostly seem to be polite but also somewhat temperamental. Weeeeird.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I dunno about the guy, but the girl DEFINITELY seems like an Fe subtype. Classic 3w2 so/sx Prom Queen
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Any reason why not Alpha (based on VI alone)?

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    Too sexy.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Any reason why not Alpha (based on VI alone)?
    Strange as it might sound, it's in the eyes and facial shape... Frankly I wouldn't believe this if I hadn't discerned it for myself, you know, because it sounds far-out.

    If you study the types and subtypes--really look at them, you know-and isolate their eyes and facial shape... You see a pattern. The exact same looks again and again, (particular to gender and subtype.)

    These two are GREAT examples of this... If I was writing a textbook about, you know, male Se-LSIs... This guy has one of the eyes/facial shapes I'd want to show. (The Ti subtype has smaller eyes and a different shaped head, a la Mark Wahlberg... Or even Wm. S. Burroughs. Two looks I've noticed for that gender/subtype.)

    It's not just betas, but all types... And not just white people, or whatever.

    It'd be good to post photos to exemplify this... I'll try to get a photo of my friend, who has the exact same look as this guy--also, Se-LSI... Or my ex, who looks almost identical to this girl, also Fe-EIE... Well-described by George too. That was her personality. (She was prom queen, haha. Was in all of those beauty pageants, you know... He's got her described spot-on. Pretty amazing.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
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    lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    lol.


    Thanks - fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    lol.
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    The Craftsman easily detects smallest deviations from esthetic standards in the surrounding world; such disharmony makes him feel distressed, awakes in him a feeling of discomfort, the desire to improve the situation, to perfect what he achieved or actually possesses – not only in the material world, but in his intellectual and spiritual development as well. This is why The Craftsman is exigent to himself and often also to the others. He likes nothing drab, trite and banal, strives for improvement of his own, his friends and family, beginning from the appearance and health, and up to the mental development. He is very curious, has wide range of interests, often he is not self-confident because of increased self-criticism. He needs praise of his capabilities, encouragement of his efforts.
    The Psychologist is just the kind of person who notices talents of the others, inspires them with belief in their capabilities, readily tells compliments. He notices even hidden capabilities and willingly encourages their development. This in turn very much commands respect of The Craftsman, who does not feel bored with such a partner. The Psychologist is useful to him also because he easily finds solutions to difficult situations, which would otherwise make The Craftsman feel depressed. Being thankful for that, The Craftsman takes care of the mental and external comfort of the one solving his internal problems.
    The Psychologist very much needs a caring partner and finds relaxation for his emotional and restless soul in the 'quiet haven' of a friend, who is constant in his words and deeds, reliable and faithful. The Craftsman creates convenience and comfort for The Psychologist, who is not much adapted to the real life, thus giving him the opportunity to focus on spiritual and intellectual values, generate new ideas, which will bring the taste of novelty into their common affairs.
    Everyday chores are usually undertaken by The Craftsman, who believes he can do them better. The Psychologist takes initiative in relations, can unite people around himself, and becomes the 'life of the party'. He gains people's favor, willingly advises on solving personal problems. He is a subtle psychologist, who understands well hidden motives of people. He emotionally demonstrates his attitude towards people; his sincerity, warmth and ingenuousness make others forgive his excessive straightforwardness and hot temper. He corrects The Craftsman's ethical mistakes, and often even his own, since he is not rancorous and likes people very much. His trustfulness disarms the incredulous Craftsman, and emotionality softens his more cold-tempered and reserved partner.
    The Craftsman is reticent enough and does not like to demonstrate his feelings. He can put a distance in communication, seems to be arrogant and non-sociable. But in the very depths of his soul he is thankful to the person who takes responsibility for ethical issues on himself. He likes The Psychologist's spirit of trust, whose permanent optimism, capability of foreseeing the future and perspectives of various undertakings, finding ways out of any problems. The Psychologist raises The Craftsman's confidence of the future, decrease his skepticism and mistrust towards everything new, not well known or not proven by practice. In addition, The Craftsman is sometimes excessively nervous and mistrustful; he exaggerates possible dangers not to mention real ones. But The Psychologist, who lives more in the future than in the present, 'calculates' everything in advance and in such moments call for caution, and at the same time calms down his partner when an alarm is false.
    The Craftsman is very technological and practical. He can work quickly and is well organized. He plans all stages of his work in advance, acquires all the necessary things in advance. He is enduring in perfecting details of his work, can separate important things from trifles, which is not an easy task for The Psychologist. The Psychologist's efficiency of working is high only in critical situations, while routine and monotonous, non-creative work deteriorates his vital tonus, being a source of boredom for this restless creative personality. The Psychologist gladly accepts a role of 'second' or 'assistant', which suits The Craftsman's commanding nature. The Craftsman does not like when others impose on him other ways of doing things than he would prefer. He is strives for real benefit and profit, unlike altruistic Psychologist, and this contributes to growth of material welfare of this dual pair.
    The Psychologist needs a partner indulgent enough to his weak points: negligence at work, lack of consideration to rules, norms and hierarchy, outbursts of non-motivated aggression. The Craftsman is indulgent to such, sometimes they even amuse him. He likes the independent nature of The Psychologist, which does not encroach on his own independence.
    The characteristic features of this dual pair are the independence from each other, as well as from others, harmony of relations and a restless spirit of creativity and self-development.
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    ^Thanks 1981slater. I am a craftsman.

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    Question:

    Interesting that the suggested subtypes are Se-LSI and Fe-EIE (the latter of which is definitely correct, to me, and both cements that I am Ni-sub, and that I find the Fe-sub almost a different species to myself in terms 'do you identify?') --

    What would be the hallmarks of this dual relationship between an accepting subtype and a producing subtype? Would it be any different to a dual relationship between an Ti-LSI and Fe-EIE, or a Se-LSI and Ni-EIE, or Ti-LSI and Ni-EIE? In order words, there are 4 possible combinations working from the two-subtype model; which of these combinations work 'best', or, if not ordering hierarchically, are there noticeable differences?
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    Is there a database of pictures with the subtype differences? We should build one or add to one if not, with people who are mostly still alive so we can see videos and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    Gilly nailed it
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I am a GOD.
    No. Sorry. I was first.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    No. I am a God.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I am a nontheist.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I don't believe you.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Neither does God.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Yeah, guy looks beta. Even reminds me of Hitta somewhat. ISTj is definitely plausible

    I want to say Fe-EIE for the girl
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    I was first.
    WINTERPARK IS A GOD.









    Gilly is too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Too sexy.


    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Strange as it might sound, it's in the eyes and facial shape... Frankly I wouldn't believe this if I hadn't discerned it for myself, you know, because it sounds far-out.

    If you study the types and subtypes--really look at them, you know-and isolate their eyes and facial shape... You see a pattern. The exact same looks again and again, (particular to gender and subtype.)

    These two are GREAT examples of this... If I was writing a textbook about, you know, male Se-LSIs... This guy has one of the eyes/facial shapes I'd want to show. (The Ti subtype has smaller eyes and a different shaped head, a la Mark Wahlberg... Or even Wm. S. Burroughs. Two looks I've noticed for that gender/subtype.)

    It's not just betas, but all types... And not just white people, or whatever.

    It'd be good to post photos to exemplify this... I'll try to get a photo of my friend, who has the exact same look as this guy--also, Se-LSI... Or my ex, who looks almost identical to this girl, also Fe-EIE... Well-described by George too. That was her personality. (She was prom queen, haha. Was in all of those beauty pageants, you know... He's got her described spot-on. Pretty amazing.)
    kkkkkkk, VI kid

    (Well, I s'pose this was a VI thread.)

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    No. Sorry. I was first.
    Technically Gilly did indeed nail it. You merely speculated, providing no finalised opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    kkkkkkk, VI kid

    (Well, I s'pose this was a VI thread.)
    It's kinda far out, you know, but what did you want? They shop at the Gap = Alpha. It doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Neither does God.
    THAT'S REDUNDANT

    ...unless...you...

    ...HEY
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofsappho View Post
    WINTERPARK IS A GOD.









    Gilly is too.
    No, that's impossible. There could only be one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Technically Gilly did indeed nail it. You merely speculated, providing no finalised opinion.
    That's cuz I'm a perfectionist. And Gilly only stole my typings, cuz he knows I'm always right.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    THAT'S REDUNDANT

    ...unless...you...

    ...HEY
    No.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    That's cuz I'm a perfectionist. And Gilly only stole my typings, cuz he knows I'm always right.
    Actually it's cuz I found them written on a napkin on your momma's bedside table.




    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    No.
    DON'T MOCK ME
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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