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    Default Deterministic vs. Heuristic

    The deterministic elements:
    The heuristic elements:

    "Deterministic/Heuristic" here coincides directly with "Internal/External" from Aspectonics or "Well-defined/Not well-defined" from Smilexian.

    The Heuristic elements act on what they know and assume they don't know everything... whereas the Deterministic attempt to know everything, and can assume they do even when they don't

    Downfall of heuristic: Not realizing everything that is known from a complete set of data
    Downfall of deterministic: Assuming that what is not known does not exist

    Deterministic can result in arguments from silence, i.e.:
    • "You can't disprove it, so it must be true"
    • "You can't prove it, so it must be false"
    • "There is no evidence for this... it must be false"



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    OK, I rephrased this in a chat, and I'm sure that I'm talking about Ji and Je, not External and Internal.

    Ji (Static): Gathering all the parts and drawing conclusions before acting on the parts
    Je (Dynamic): Gathering continually, drawing conclusions on the fly and acting on conclusions to date



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    According to Victor Gulenko:
    Heuristic = Result
    Deterministic = Process

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    External + IJ = Process Ti ("cause-and-effect" Thinking Style)
    OK... External+IJ here is evidently not "external statics of fields" as I would be inclined to read it. What's the formula for Result Ti, and what do you mean by "External"?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    OK... External+IJ here is evidently not "external statics of fields" as I would be inclined to read it. What's the formula for Result Ti, and what do you mean by "External"?
    I think that what he implied was "double external"+IJ, which is sensing thinking + IJ, whereas result Ti would be mixed internal-external, for IJs
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    External is another word for ST. In ST function blocks both functions are External.

    IJ External means nothing more and nothing less than ISTj.

    Result types have +Creating functions and -Accepting functions.
    Process types have -Creating functions and +Accepting functions.

    + and - signify left and right in the sequence:
    F N T S F

    Example: F is left of N in the sequence, so in all NF types, the F is + and the N is -.
    Example: N is left of T in the sequence, so in all NT types the N is + and the T is -.

    Rational Democrats are Result, Irrational Democrats are Process.
    Rational Aristocrats are Process, Irrational Aristocrats are Result.

    In regard to T types:
    NTjs are Result, NTps are Process.
    STjs are Process, STps are Result.

    Process/Result can be viewed as a property of dual couples instead of types. Duals always share the Process/Result property.

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