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    This is in MBTI but Im sure it can be applied universally. That said, Im just posting this for the links at the bottoms describing the issues. I think it can reflect us, too, so it is worth a look.

    http://skepdic.com/refuge/ctpseudoscience.html

    Edit: To clarify, I meant these linked defines:

    Cold reading, confirmation bias, communal reinforcement, shoehorning, self-deception, anecdotal evidence and wishful thinking.

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    And don't forget the fundamental attribution error and the Barnum effect.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae
    ...Cold reading, confirmation bias, communal reinforcement, shoehorning, self-deception, anecdotal evidence and wishful thinking.
    And my favorite expression, circle jerking. The more vile the expression, the more it hits home for me.

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    It's common sense.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    It's common sense.
    Agreed.
    I wonder then, when and why do we, others, people get caught up in that kind of phenomenon. When does common sense get placed on the back burner... and how is that avoided...

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    Common sense is conforming to those effects, not the other way around. Beating the constraints of the human mind requires a reanalysis of your current state at all times. Most of those effects happen because through the course of your thought process, variables get added to your reasoning and others become forgotten.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Common sense is conforming to those effects, not the other way around.
    Ahhh, from my perspective common sense is what you say below.

    Beating the constraints of the human mind requires a reanalysis of your current state at all times. Most of those effects happen because through the course of your thought process, variables get added to your reasoning and others become forgotten.
    Constant evaluating = common sense. That's what I thought FDG and Diana were stating.

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    Common sense is what common people do, no? Well, common people are idiots, obviously.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Only 5% of the population has common sense---not very common now, is it?
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

    "Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."

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    Quote Originally Posted by maizemedley
    Constant evaluating = common sense. That's what I thought FDG and Diana were stating.
    Your perception was right.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Common sense is what common people do, no? Well, common people are idiots, obviously.

    Erudite snob Seriously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Common sense is what common people do, no? Well, common people are idiots, obviously.
    You know that when people say shit like this I just want to piss them in their mouth?
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    And don't forget the fundamental attribution error and the Barnum effect.
    reminds me of comn class......... test tmorrow
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    Common sense is what common people do, no? Well, common people are idiots, obviously.
    I see what you're saying, I think. I hope I don't pollute what you are saying in order to make sense of it! LOL.

    People find it easier to adopt the common beliefs (no matter how rational/irrational those common beliefs may be) rather than exercise their minds.

    The definition you provided of common sense is very much a true ongoing dynamic that continues to plague humanity!!!

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    I wasn't implying that I wasn't a common person.

    The errors of reasoning are not beliefs but rather fundamental characteristics of human thinking, characteristics that cannot be overcome without knowledge of them and long-term, deliberate action. I highly doubt the person who states that he does not conform to these phenomena.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Uhm, and that makes the negation okay?

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    If you don't like the wording, then pretend it isn't there or something.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone
    If you don't like the wording, then pretend it isn't there or something.

    *pretends Cone didnt malign millions of people without even knowing them*

    It isnt working. Oh darn or something.

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