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    HECK YEA!

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    I thought you would say they were notorious for their "freak outs."

    They are lively one minute, then they erupt, then they go back to lively the next minute.

    I guess they are a bit "volatile," or moody?

    Interesting ESFp.
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    I second Joe's comments. (at least for the esfps i've been around)
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    The ESFp I know has a pretty bad temper... he's slapped his girlfriend when he was angry.
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    I should add, Delta has shown me nothing but good aspects of ESFPs. This gives me hope for my daughter's future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    I should add, Delta has shown me nothing but good aspects of ESFPs. This gives me hope for my daughter's future.
    That's an ESFp thing as well ... which is quite funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan
    I think it might be a subtype thing.

    My mother who is an ESFp, is the most volatile bad tempered person on the planet earth at times. I will say no more .

    However, I do know this other ESFp who has a solid reputation for being endlessly happy, even-tempered and good natured. I actually do believe from experience with him that he deserves this reputation.
    ESFps sensory subtype are very volatile, the ethical subtype ESFps are more stable and good-natured.
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    ESFps volatile?

    That sounds like ESFj. Se isn't reactionary... that's Te/Fe.
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    I know 2 SEEs who are normally good-natured but are sometimes subject to significant mood-swings. This could have something to do with adolescence, as one is my 15-year-old brother and the other I went to high school with (he's a year younger than I am).

    2 other SEEs I know are more "stable" (for lack of a better word). They're also older (one of them is 51, lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    I should add, Delta has shown me nothing but good aspects of ESFPs. This gives me hope for my daughter's future.
    She has nothing but good to show.

    I'm very close with two ESFps and they are much more even-tempered and less aggressive than I am. I really don't see it (they do get angry, of course, but only with good reason). I do suspect that both are ethical subtypes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    I should add, Delta has shown me nothing but good aspects of ESFPs. This gives me hope for my daughter's future.
    She has nothing but good to show.

    I'm very close with two ESFps and they are much more even-tempered and less aggressive than I am. I really don't see it (they do get angry, of course, but only with good reason). I do suspect that both are ethical subtypes.
    ENFps are moody, too! And they react to the same things (in the same way, even) that ESFps do. Heck, even ISFps could join the party.

    Maybe ESFPs freak out when they get poked in a soft spot. I dunno.

    What I do know is what I have seen, and what I see is pretty much what most people here say.

    ESFps are my "dual" for the moment, so I won't saying anything negative to mess that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    ESFps volatile?

    That sounds like ESFj. Se isn't reactionary... that's Te/Fe.
    It's Fi
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    Here are Gulenko's subtype descriptions for ESFp --


    Politician is terminal (sensory)
    (supplying - from the Eng. provider)

    Very active, energetic, enterprising. In it always, that is called, the "nose downwind". It is inclined to the adventures, to the games on the difference of prices, to risk, to game with the law. If is defeated, easily it departs, "after substituting" less flexible partners. This is one of the most unpredictable types, it easily works in the torgovo- intermediary structures, but not in the production. A sharp drop in the mood is characteristic for it: if to me it is good, then all must be good, if to me it is bad, then rest let suffer. It converges with the people on the short distances, it can arrange powerful emotional pressing. Good executive, the worker of service, for example waiter; actor - but only easy genres (comedy, operetta). It easily manipulates by the relations: it draws near, people are moved away. It is emotionally unstable; therefore it is frequently unsociable (it can provoke to something and in the case of failure - rapidly to leave into the shadow).

    Politician is initial (ethical)
    (founder - from the Eng. founder)

    Counts on people of influential and reliable, gradually it converges with them, if they are useful. It possesses specific snobbery, status of impressiveness. In it must be increasingly better - office, machine, dacha... A good worker, can govern people, relations, calculates well, pragmatician. He is not inclined to the adventures, a good politician, since he wonderfully feels people and draws necessary. Plays the role of thoughtful person, who works above the key problem. It dresses more with restraint than terminal subtype.
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    Emotionally unstable does not equal volatile. The "emotionally unstable" I can totally see. The anger not so much in those I know. But they are older, too (as in not 20).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    I should add, Delta has shown me nothing but good aspects of ESFPs. This gives me hope for my daughter's future.
    She has nothing but good to show.
    You two are so sweet!

    On myself (an ESFP) and anger (because I still don't feel entirely comfortable speaking in terms of functions): I have "blown up" on occasion, but usually because I've been forgiving to the Nth degree and just can't take it anymore. This happens when I feel people have repeatedly hurt me, but I either ignore it or forgive them because they didn't realize what they were saying, it didn't come out the way they intended, they just don't know any better, etc., etc., etc. When I finally blow my top, these people have seen it as coming from out of nowhere and I think a couple have classified me as "volatile" ever since. But I am always careful not to get physical at all (slamming doors and such) and try to be careful not to say things just to hurt the other person (or even say things that I think are called for, but that I know would hurt the other person a lot). I also get really angry when people attack my friends and sometimes lash out in ways that aren't very nice.

    I had a worse temper when I was younger, mostly due to my frustration with what I saw as a completely unjust world/life over which I had very little (read: no) control. I slammed doors, threw things (always my own things and never at anyone), and lashed out verbally without much thought about what I was saying or how my words would hurt anyone. I still remember and regret many of the terrible things I said to people, even the ones I still think were completely true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fever
    Quote Originally Posted by MySaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
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    I should add, Delta has shown me nothing but good aspects of ESFPs. This gives me hope for my daughter's future.
    That's an ESFp thing as well ... which is quite funny.
    what do u mean? they would keep this aspect very well hidden?
    I think it means that we only show our good sides because we want people to like us--am I right, MySaviour? If so, I think you have a good point. I'm a nice person in general, I think, but sometimes in RL I'm even nice to people I can't stand (especially at work) because I know things will be easier if they like me. I know it's insincere, but....well, okay, there's not really a "but" to be had here, is there?
    Yes, I'm an ESFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    ESFps volatile?

    That sounds like ESFj. Se isn't reactionary... that's Te/Fe.
    It's Fi
    Fi is volatile? Yeah...ok. I'd say Se is likely to exercise even-tempered aggression, but Se hidden agenda (control) and/or Fe (reactivity) is most likely to produce emotionally inspired aggression.
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    You have to learn to not think of it as being rude but as having fun in the sense of goading the other person to have greater intensity, a higher energy level, feel more exhilarated and happy.

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    point out to them the repercussions of their behavior on future interaction? cone could probably do better. i am still "figuring out" esfps

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