it is not life and death situation if we don't find out his type. But this should be settle and finding his type can clear out alot of confusion. He is a very hard person to type with many disagreement on his type. Let's discuss this here.
Type Hitta
it is not life and death situation if we don't find out his type. But this should be settle and finding his type can clear out alot of confusion. He is a very hard person to type with many disagreement on his type. Let's discuss this here.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
Originally Posted by Jarno
Hitta
What was his selftyping again? LII ?
SEI? IEI?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Who cares. There is a way to engage and help Hitta without resorting to typing him. Let Hitta type *himself.* Only Hitta knows who Hitta really is. =/
It's usually in the details of who we are. Not in the abstract.
For example I'm a decent writer, I like fingering girls, fucking guys, I like parks, and shaman magic, group homes, I'm equally a dog/cat person. I have a fear of centipedes. I love Fefe Dobson, Miley Cyrus and....Jem. (lol) I don't like dating in public, I'd much prefer privately staring in each other's eyes and being lovey dovey romantic.
NONE OF THAT IS ANY STEREOTYPICAL LABEL! DON'T YOU SEE. GENERALITIES ARE WORTHLESS. LOVE IS IN EVERYTHING. GOD IS IN EVERYTHING. IT DOESN'T HELP PEOPLE DO *SHIT* IN LIFE BUT BECOME SLOW SUICIDES.
I'm sorry for yelling. I'm just PASSIONATE about this.
yes, he ignores Te.
I think he doesn't self-type anymore, TBH, but before he decided that Socionics is crap he self-typed as INTj.
I agree that he is Ti-INTj, and definitely not IxFp. Yeah, he's "ignorant" of Te in a lot of ways, but I think it's mostly that he doesn't care. He's just has too much time to think and too little in the way of prior experience with critical thinking to really systematize what he believes in a coherent way. Any ways, he's really not Beta at all...I mean, c'mon, it's Hitta.
JRiddy
—————King of Socionics—————
Ne-ENTp 7w8 sx/so
No, good that you brought it up. I do think it's his ignoring function. But since I'm not sure enough in these matters, I'll give you my arguments, so you can check if they are valid.
Hitta is a rationalist. He keeps getting back at his theory that nothing you see can be trusted, everything is subjective etc. objective facts don't exist etc.
More important, in his current Zodiac topic, he totally ignores 'testing' and 'experimenting' as useful methods. He doesn't see the need for testing results etc.
I agree. A totally Te naive person would likely not outright dismiss Te verification because they wouldn't have a firm enough grasp of those concepts to know what to dismiss.
JRiddy
—————King of Socionics—————
Ne-ENTp 7w8 sx/so
Or they are dismissing something so easily because they don't even understand it in the first place at all, which would also point to a PoLR.
My guess is IEI.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I don't really think Socionics is crap. I just think that most people that use it are(not all). I get annoyed when people start ranting about things they don't really understand or that make no sense in anyway. Ex: "OMG he is showing such Te demonstrative". Also, people tend to have a really big imbalanced view of the functions. Not trying to pick on Numbers because most people here do this but like for example someone will say that someone is Ni because "they have all of these abstract ideas in their head which they can't express". Then the same person will come back and say that someone is Si because "they tend to be very involved in their discussions with Si". These two statements contradict each other, as Ni and Si are both supposed to be internal functions. It really makes no sense for a person to communicate through Si, and not be able to communicate through Ni. Its like people here have a lot of preconceived notions about how everything works and whatever, yet everything that comes out doesn't make any sense at all.
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I think you guys are confusing Se with Te.
Not caring or seeing that something is a certain way, which in my experience Hitta has done, is a product of Se devaluing. I think Hitta is more interested in the hidden qualities and purposes of objects (Ne) and therefore perceives them and also reasons that they are this way due to the general cause-effect "omni-connectedness" of the universe. That the movement of one thing creates ripples which affect everything else in a physical sense is a depiction of Si.
So the internal (Ne) is on shakey ground (people having astrologically determined personality traits), but then he backs it up with the external (Si), which acts as a general background cushion to justify the internal attributes.
Why do people have these attributes?
Everything affects everything else, so even distant stars affect our lives and all these variables combine in certain ways to form an "attribute", which is so far removed from its source that it is latent and essential.
Thats an example of turning the infinite complexity of Si into specific nodes of Ne.
This also applies to socionics to a lesser degree, but whatever.
If Hitta ever came across as Beta to me I'd have no problem changing my mind, but so far I've only seen Ne/Si from him.
The end is nigh
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Edit: Oh and he's pretty good at poker too if that's type relevant (seems like a 'feel' player). However, I crushed his bosox dreams in game 7 (also type relevant).
Last edited by munenori2; 03-14-2009 at 03:00 PM.
No mas Bob Ross? Por que?
I don't see the similarity between Hitta and Crazedrat, could you point out what exactly it is that you see? BTW you agree/know that Crazedrat is ILI?
Actually I see lot of similarity between them. Similar interest from the same viewpoint towards theories and mysticism, and they both have similar sense of humor.
And Crazedrat of course is INFp
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
The pornaholic, needs to get more of a real life and stop being addicted to the media so much type.
(PNTGMOARLASBATTMSMt)
I don't believe in giving people psychological boosts, as that just boosts their ego. I believe in being more direct, more concrete- to truly help somebody. Anything you say internally about their internals, would just make them explore their internal things even more. But... life and the universe is about progression, about moving forward. If you can't stay basically 'connected with the seasons' jesus christ, that would make anybody depressed. Don't let the first evil get you down!
Now I'm projecting slightly again. But my original joke still stands.
You know you love me.
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