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    Hello! I've never posted here before, but I've only been on for a couple of days, so I think I have a bit of an excuse...
    Just wondering, but have any of you guys come across a SLI-LII duel type before?
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    Do you know what a dual type is?

    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    Do you know what a dual type is?
    I thought so... but now I'm getting the feeling that I don't...
    Is it not someone who is more than 1 type?
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    Nope. One person cannot be more than 1 type. Duality (edit: not to be confused with "Dual-type theory") is the idea that certain types' ego functions, base in particular, naturally compensate for or compliment the Super Id of another type.

    Duality is a intertype relation, be it either platonic or romantic, in which both partners' strengths are what the other seeks out and desires, but can't fufill on their own.

    Allow me to direct you toward the Wikisocion.org. It's a great jump off point for socionics 101.
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    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    That's the second dual-type question in past few days. Just forget it Fluffy, it's bullshit.

    In most cases (well actually there's very few of them) people have used the dual-type as an excuse to explain their false self-typing.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    See, I was typing someone for fun, and SLI didn't fit completely. However, if it was partnered with LII, then it worked.
    This person is not me, by the way. I'm IEE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy The Destroyer View Post
    I'm IEE
    Coolio.

    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy The Destroyer View Post
    I'm IEE
    Naw, too much Fe/Ti.


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    Gulanzon might just be jealous. He wants to be IEE-Fi, but everyone and their dog thinks he's ILE.

    Gulanzon, do you possess the technology to make a video?

    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy The Destroyer View Post
    See, I was typing someone for fun, and SLI didn't fit completely. However, if it was partnered with LII, then it worked.
    This person is not me, by the way. I'm IEE
    Heh, well why didn't it work at first, but then worked with LII? Maybe it's more fruitful to find his actual type

    Some potential suggestions:

    SLI-Te subtype
    ESTj
    If he's "too intuitive" -> ILI
    If he seems Ti/Fe valuing -> LSI
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I thought Dual-type theory was tcaudilllg's hypothesis that people have two types, an IM type and an exertion type. (not the same thing as Duality.)
    Oh, my bad. Thanks for the correction.

    "His feeling that this world is not his Fatherland, and that it does not represent his proper condition, so to speak—his feeling that, basically, he 'comes from afar'—will remain a fundamental element which will not give rise to mystical escapism and spiritual weakness, but rather will enable him to minimise, to relativise, to refer to higher concepts of measure and limit, all that can seem important and definitive to others, starting with death itself, and will confer on him calm force and breadth of vision." — Julius Evola

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I thought Dual-type theory was tcaudilllg's hypothesis that people have two types, an IM type and an exertion type. (not the same thing as Duality.)
    It's not actually even Tcaud's, he's just been advocating it, and made some of his own interpretations based on it.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    heh, didn't know that. who first proposed it, do you know?
    I think was probably wrong about that afterall, I fused information together and came up with wrong result.

    Because now that I read the crosstype article, it's based on Jung's undifferentiated functions, but those doesn't have that much to do with dual-type theory.

    And then I remembered that on some russian site there was table with lot more than 16 types, but that probably was some other unrelated theory. But I didn't find link to that anymore.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Naw, too much Fe/Ti.

    Gulanzon i love you. You're so silly. Always making a ruckus getting the quadras into sort of a celebratory mood as you poke fun at people, groups, but with the intention to liven things up and have fun.
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    Slippery slope, slippery slopes.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    And then I remembered that on some russian site there was table with lot more than 16 types, but that probably was some other unrelated theory. But I didn't find link to that anymore.
    Perhaps it was Bukalov's 16-element, 32-type thing. (Somehow saying that reminds me of Smilexian Socionics... it has subtypes, and Smilex has said on occasion that there are really 16 elements.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Gulanzon i love you. You're so silly. Always making a ruckus getting the quadras into sort of a celebratory mood as you poke fun at people, groups, but with the intention to liven things up and have fun.
    Gah, Te/Fi filtering.

    It was angry venting! Angry venting with super-serious sarcasm!

    Seriously!

    Leave me alone :frown: I'm IEE-Fi

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Slippery slope, slippery slopes.....


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    This is getting terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Gah, Te/Fi filtering.

    It was angry venting! Angry venting with super-serious sarcasm!

    Seriously!

    Leave me alone :frown: I'm IEE-Fi
    That sort of inner mood change -> to external commotion making is definitely an Fe thing thar. I can't see an Fi-er really riding on that. Thats like... really... really related to the internal dynamics of objects (The inner/intention-based changes of things).
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