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    Default So I consulted with Sergei Ganin ...

    I showed him some pictures of me. He says that I look heavily like an ENXj and that in some pictures he said I looked very ENFj.

    But, it was not just going by that ... we talked for an hour about how I use the functions, and I have come to the conclusion that it is possible that I have been confusing some Te for Ne.

    And by the way, I think you guys are not giving Ganin enough credit, he picked some things up about me that I knew about and never clarified to anyone before. It was rather disturbing, actually.

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    um, so does this mean you are claiming ENFJ now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    um, so does this mean you are claiming ENFJ now?
    I have always debated between ENFj and ENTp ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    um, so does this mean you are claiming ENFJ now?
    I have always debated between ENFj and ENTp ...
    but your sig still says ENXp
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    Don't benefactors have a tendency to mistake themselves for their beneficiary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishysquishy
    Don't benefactors have a tendency to mistake themselves for their beneficiary?
    Theoretically, yes ... but, I have come to accept that there some some things that I do that are totally contrary to being an ENTp ...

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    Oh wait, I just realised that I mixed up the benefactor/beneficiary. But it doesn't need to make sense, anyway

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    Default Re: So I consulted with Sergei Ganin ...

    i wouldn't want to be in the same room with the guy.
    lol

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    Default Re: So I consulted with Sergei Ganin ...

    Quote Originally Posted by xiuxiu
    i wouldn't want to be in the same room with the guy.
    Why? Ganin is actually pretty cool once you get to know him ...

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    i'm sure he is. i said that because i have been reflecting lately about my own knowledge of socionics, and how uncomfortable people around me might be if they knew how much i knew about them- and my knowledge of socionics isn't nearly as extensive as his.
    lol

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    He scares me. I guess it just those INTjs...
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    You know what I think of him McNew.

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    I think his site is the most comprehensive resource of Socionics information to date. He also seems like a pretty intelligent guy; I would have no qualms about learning more about him or his ideas.

    I agree with xiuxiu, though: I know how awkward it would be to be in a room with someone else like me, and I've been told that it's intimidating and disconcerting by those who know about my interest in personality theory, so I can only imagine what it would be like to have a conversation with someone who's simultaneously listening to you and analyzing everything you say.
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    Sometimes I avoid being around myself, constantly thinking that I'm probably psychoanalyzing myself while talking to myself. Socionics freaks. Scary stuff.

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    Sometimes, my own analysis of myself is an impediment to the point that I spend no effort doing what I'm supposed to be doing, and focus my internal attention on analyzing myself doing what I'm doing.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    Sometimes, my own analysis of myself is an impediment to the point that I spend no effort doing what I'm supposed to be doing, and focus my internal attention on analyzing myself doing what I'm doing.
    That makes two of us.

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    Sucks, doesn't it?

    I try to observe myself using Ne while learning (which is, of course, impossible, since it's my primary function and largely unconscious) in order to help myself better understand how I learn, but I can never quite grasp it. Then I realize that what I'm using to observe myself is as much Ne as my learning process, so I try to observe Ne by observing my observation of myself, and it just gets worse and worse. Then I get pissed off, and unconsciously try to use Fe instead of Ti to understand calculus. Which, by the way, doesn't work.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    exactly! I use my to try and "program" my into becoming conscious, but all it does is beef up my introversion. Actually it works on occasion. But not when I need it.

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    True + True = True.

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    I can not please everyone in this world ...

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    McNew is ISFj.

    Now hush girls. Leave him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    McNew is ISFj.

    Now hush girls. Leave him.
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    Sychophant hates everybody. ha
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    God. I don't hate everyone. The people that have actually talked to me know I'm really just a ball of Fi with a burning hidden agenda.

    McNew knows that I like him and he knows I was being sarcastic.

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    I know. j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    God. I don't hate everyone. The people that have actually talked to me know I'm really just a ball of Fi with a burning hidden agenda.

    McNew knows that I like him and he knows I was being sarcastic.
    Csaky tortures me for fun, she gets a kick out of it me thinks ...

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    The man said Pedro was most likely an ESFj or ESFp.

    You're an ENTp, face it.
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

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    Some day I will convince him that he is an ESTj just for shits n giggles :wink:

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    I think Ganin's problem is that he tries to deduce type rather than induce it. Honestly, I could find plenty of ENFp, ENFj, INFp, ENTj, INTj, INFj, ESFp, ESTp and INTp qualities in myself. I could probably convince myself of being any one of them, using the same logic that Ganin probably used to convince you.

    Honestly, I think you're an INTj, Intuitive subtype. That's based on VI, my observations of your behavior, what you say about yourself, and the types you've previously considered. But that's just me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I think some of us need to watch what we are implying on here ... there is the possibility that he might read this thread and seemed a bit concerned about the content. Let's keep in mind that no human can be God and not everything you hear can always be 100% accurate.

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    And?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    I think some of us need to watch what we are implying on here ... there is the possibility that he might read this thread and seemed a bit concerned about the content. Let's keep in mind that no human can be God and not everything you hear can always be 100% accurate.
    Lol, he should be concerned if he's going to spout off some dolt bullshit like you being an ENFj. Or pedro being an ESFp? Wtf? Ganin's a quack.
    And you are an idiot, I think that was rude and he has been reading this thread *hint hint*...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    I think some of us need to watch what we are implying on here ... there is the possibility that he might read this thread and seemed a bit concerned about the content. Let's keep in mind that no human can be God and not everything you hear can always be 100% accurate.
    Lol, he should be concerned if he's going to spout off some dolt bullshit like you being an ENFj. Or pedro being an ESFp? Wtf? Ganin's a quack.
    Einstein was labelled a quack when he posted his theories. You should think about that.
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    Einstein posted theories? Anyway, I'm pretty sure rmcnew is some kind of NT type.
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    Just a wee bit.

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    For those of you who are serious and non-flamming posters, if other people are going to turn into assholes and flame up this otherwise good thread, stop posting here. Especially if some are going on an EGO trip thinking people are Gods and infallible, I've had quite enough of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    And you are an idiot, I think that was rude and he has been reading this thread *hint hint*...
    Oh yeah, I'm an idiot because I call out somebody for being full of shit. I could care less if he is or isn't reading this thread.
    Alright guys, the poster above just gave us a pretty good example of what I just posted about ... let us all give him a round of applause and stop responding to this thread before it goes further into hell.

    For those of you who are serious and non-flamming posters, if other people are going to turn into assholes and flame up this otherwise good thread, stop posting here. Especially if some are going on an EGO trip thinking people are Gods and infallible, I've had quite enough of that.

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    I like baby ducks.



    McNew, Ashe loves you. He isn't insulting you he is insulting Ganin, whom he must think is a silly cunt bag.

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    You did the sandwich wrong silly. Compliment/Negative/Compliment!

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