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    Clearly, having blocked with makes us highly unsure of ourselves.

    At least, I think it does...

    Does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Clearly, having blocked with makes us highly unsure of ourselves.

    At least, I think it does...

    Does it?
    why would this be? you might be right.
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    I'm not sure!!

    Actually, I'd agree with this, but then I'd consider the fact that I cannot be in the minda of others with different values, so I cannot truly know if I am, in fact, insecure by comparation.

    Oh wait nvm lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    why would this be? you might be right.
    builds logical frameworks.

    attempts to observe things from different angles.

    Combined, they form a pattern of "Is my paradigm right?" thinking.

    EDIT

    I guess what I'm saying is that, in Alphas, gets thrown against specifically, and nearly constantly, hence the insecurities.

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    Come to think of it, most of the alphas I've run across (not an abundance, t'be honest, only half a dozen or so, but still) have had a lot of trouble with second-guessing themselves. Hadn't really thought of it in terms of socionics before now though, just figured it was a personal issue. I guess that inability to focus on future events separate from the now could have a lot to do with it.

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    Gulanzon, I think you should stop with the objective statements about quadras and types. Every type and quadra has their insecurities. What do you think a PoLR is?

    ETA: your bringing attention to the fact that you feel your own quadra to be insecure is merely a recognition of your own person insecurities; a kind of awareness. This is by no means a bad thing.

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    I'm simply attempting to stimulate discussion, Ezra-baby.

    You're so boring ):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    I'm simply attempting to stimulate discussion, Ezra-baby.

    You're so boring ):
    Hey, I'm merely keeping the peace.


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    Ezra, take me. Now.
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    This:

    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95
    it's going to depend upon what you mean by "unsure of oneself"

    having Ti in one's ego tends towards insecurity about one's Fi relations with other people or one's ability to join a Fe atmosphere.

    on the other hand, i'm seldom insecure about where i've gotten my facts from or how to compare them impartially.
    I don't consider myself insecure. Uncertain of where I stand with people, how they perceive me and whether my actions in a group are having their intended affect, yes. But none of that really causes me to be insecure because I'm not really worried about it. I'm generally pretty confident and sure of myself, which is bolstered by the certainty that I'm good at what I do and I do what I enjoy.
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    The alphas I know do tend to be unsure of themselves (more than other quadras I know) but that could just be these particular individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    This:

    I don't consider myself insecure. Uncertain of where I stand with people, how they perceive me and whether my actions in a group are having their intended affect, yes. But none of that really causes me to be insecure because I'm not really worried about it. I'm generally pretty confident and sure of myself, which is bolstered by the certainty that I'm good at what I do and I do what I enjoy.
    I relate to this, I may consider myself insecure when it comes to females to a small extent, lol. But in regards to everything else, I'm pretty confident and sometimes even cocky most of the time, a far cry from insecure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    The alphas I know do tend to be unsure of themselves (more than other quadras I know) but that could just be these particular individuals.
    Maybe they show their vulnerability more outwardly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    I don't consider myself insecure. Uncertain of where I stand with people, how they perceive me and whether my actions in a group are having their intended affect, yes. But none of that really causes me to be insecure because I'm not really worried about it. I'm generally pretty confident and sure of myself, which is bolstered by the certainty that I'm good at what I do and I do what I enjoy.
    I could've written that.

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    This is kind of a silly topic. Ezra briefly pointed out why. I do think there's a comically recurring type of insecurity alpha NTs (more so ENTps) can have. It's sort of like the awkward court jester type of thing, hoping someone laughs at their joke or finds their idea interesting, and potentially doomed to ceaseless intellectual meandering. Obviously that is exaggerated for effect.

    You can't really link this shit to type, though; you may observe subtle qualities, but turning them into general idea more often than not falls short. Accrue more data; the patterns will evince themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    This is kind of a silly topic. Ezra briefly pointed out why. I do think there's a comically recurring type of insecurity alpha NTs (more so ENTps) can have. It's sort of like the awkward court jester type of thing, hoping someone laughs at their joke or finds their idea interesting, and potentially doomed to ceaseless intellectual meandering. Obviously that is exaggerated for effect.
    I think you may be exaggerating for effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    I think you may be exaggerating for effect.
    I'm not sure.

    I think he could just be being ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    I'm not sure.

    I think he could just be being ironic.
    Nah, more like... sodium.



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    Didn't you know? Sodium forms ironic bonds.

    Now, something like silicone? That forms covolitional bonds. Even moreso with hydrogen cyanide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulanzon View Post
    Didn't you know? Sodium forms ironic bonds.

    Now, something like silicone? That forms covolitional bonds. Even moreso with hydrogen cyanide.


    Yes, but that's the point... the statement was a souce of iony, not ionic in itself.



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    Oh... alpha humor never ceases to crack me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Oh... alpha humor never ceases to crack me up.
    you should have included one of these then --->
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    you should have included one of these then --->
    That would have been an exaggeration for effect, though.
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    Depends what you mean of unsure of yourself i suppose. INTj's and ENTp's can be very sure of their intelligence (and rightly so). The sensors can be very confident.

    If you mean changing your mind, i think i take the cake. + means my opinion could be right or its could be wrong. Im also not sure if im logically thinking of everything
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    This is true. By the way, who's your holographic thinker?

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    That's one thing I love about Alphas - their wit.

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