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    Such a glorious username.

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    I lol'd a bit there...haha.

    You actually remind me a lot of a guy I work with and one of my good friends... the way you talk and look. He's Puerto Rican, so he also has a thick accent that, weird enough, kinda sounds like your English... even though you're from different sides of the globe.

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    lol tuturututu ... you're a bit nuts :-p
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    after that, it was hard to see your name without the pause between "tuturu" and "tutu". however it was a good demonstration of how to say it. also, pressing your earphone produces the sound as well.
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    INTjs are not supposed to smoke!!!
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    nah man, your english is good. I am jealous of the accent though.
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    Jao... koji lepotan!
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    lol, I always wondered how to pronounce your username. Hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post

    Haha...no, not this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by winterpark View Post
    Jao... koji lepotan!
    A znao sam da imaš nekakve veze sa našim krajevima samo sam se stidio pitat.

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    I really liked the part about ILI's and Darwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    A znao sam da imaš nekakve veze sa našim krajevima samo sam se stidio pitat.
    Ma ne stidi se bre brate... najbolji su to krajevi, amerikanci mogu sanjat o balkanski zivot.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    now i want a cigarette SO badly.
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    ur hilarious dude

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    now i want a cigarette SO badly.
    me2 lets share a pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    me2 lets share a pack.
    haha. i already caved and bought one. come to boston? now?
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    Yeah, I don't see INTj either.
    INFp seems plausible though. You are likeable tutrutututututu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    ...i considered your irony...
    What makes you think that I was ironic? I was completely honest tbh. Not seeing that is a major misunderstanding on your part. Anyway, you have demonstrated serious inability to type me properly. You have also dismissed my self-typing as incorrect which shows me that you think that you can type me better than I could do it myself, regardless of insufficient amount of data on your part. By doing that you are insulting my intelligence. I can forgive you that, but your incompetence in socionics is so disgusting that I have no other option than to put you on my ignore-list. You will be removed from there in a month. So, please, go to your study chambers and dedicate yourself to socionics.

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    Ooh ooh me next! Ignore me next! I type you as .. IEE!
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    meh

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    LOL on the video... as for your typing, you are definity an LII IMO, I know most people type themselve an LII when they first com across meyer briggs/Socionics becuase they think they are an Introvert, Intuitive, Thinker, with a strong Rationalation. But I think you are one of those "real LII".
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    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

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    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    i noticed that, too. men especially consider Feeling as shameful, but that gives INFP it's nobility, for example. it is not an impediment for thinking logically.

    arguments?
    Through most of his video, It is clear to me that he vaules Fe, and often tried to make the video as "Fe-ish" as possible. I think types with Ti dominant functions dont focus on explaining it's Ti and tried to focus more toward "FE" when in situation where it requires Fe like making a video. I have to doubt ILI becuase he does not seem like an Dynamic type NI along with Te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
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    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    do you know the first thing an IxTJ thinks before doing something (in this case a filmed introduction)? "what's the purpose of this?", "what is to gain from this?" fact! "for fun" is almost not existing from their dictionary.
    That doesn't really make sense. What's to say "for fun" couldn't be an LII's purpose for something?
    what bothers me is that you continue to use void arguments like "it is clear to me" while i asked you for an explanation. even if you have problems expressing your insights, your hypothesis that he's using Fe may be true and false, it is one possibility of maybe hundreds. he's expressing F impulse, and not faking it, he's expressing himself. this also contradicts not having Ni. Ni deals with effect, plant now - harvest later, combined with Fe it deals with the emotional effect on people.
    If Ni "plants now, harvests later" .. then Si likely deals with affecting people in the moment. Simply aiming to have an emotional effect on people isn't necessarily NiFe. And implying that he was aiming for an emotional effect just because he was laughing or something seems rather ridiculous anyway .. just how serious are the LIIs you know? I'm sure they laugh impulsively on occasion. :-p
    on the opposite, an INTJ introduction would be a static, structural presentation, it would deal only with the subject (in this case the self description) in the clearest way, without involving external factors.
    I would think you'd also have to take into account how serious the LII (or person, for that matter) is about getting people's opinion of his typing.. Tuturururutututu seems like he's confident enough in his self-typing, so why would he go to the trouble of presenting some sort of serious, structural presentation? Depends what his motivation is.. I'm not sure you're privy to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    not impossible, unlikely. taking everything literally you'll miss the point of typing.
    for them, there must be a reason, an useful one, for everything. i was many times asked by LIIs why do i smoke, what's the point of it. one of them even proposed me a deal, if i quit smoking he'd do something i want him to do for a long time. i managed to escape the deal only later, when he studied socionics and read about the rationality dichotomy.
    "The LII is most engaged in communication when he is critically analyzing people's decisions and actions as well as how they generally are or are not consistent with certain pre-established goals." - Wikisocion

    they're not serious in the sense of unapproachable, one can have a laugh with them. even a nudge, but for that one needs a reason, like "you old fart, all this years you had these wires/magnets/etc in your room?". be prepared for a retaliation, though, as they have a reason for those installations.
    if maybe my sample of LIIs is too small, i'd like to read your experiences.
    also, read some descriptions: http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=LII . "my" LIIs kinda match it, i tend to incline that your (and 07490's) notions kinda miss it.
    (after re-reading that description i realized that i'm trying to explain the obvious to you)

    if i mistyped him as IEI, that's another discussion, it can't start before clarifying if he's LII or not.
    Perhaps your sample of LIIs is too small, but I think the main issue is that this sample of tutururutututtu is too small to do anything much more than acknowledge his existence. :-p I mean he basically just says hi and that he doesn't speak much English. How can you dismiss someone's well-considered self-typing from such a video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    how could i answer this... because i'm good? i'm not the only one, though, remember forgetmenot shares my insight for this case. there are a lot of revealing small details, about which i wrote above (i hope not in vain). perhaps you didn't even read that description.
    Well, I've read it now :-p (unrelated aside - Fooking hell! I'm an LII!). I don't see how it contradicts the way tutu acted in his video. Also, consider this excerpt: "If the LII feels made to do a task he perceives as boring, he will try to find an original way to do it, if simply for the sake of developing an interesting idea." So perhaps that's ruututu's motive.
    i didn't swear either tuturututu is not LII nor he's an IEI. it's just my opinion and i don't think it's fair to lie or hide it just to respect his self-typing which might be wrong. i sustained it with all that hassle, if you have the proofs to contradict me, be my guest!
    Show your "proofs" and I'll show you mine. :-p
    i repeat: i'm sorry if i offended tutu., and there is no reason for you to take his defence disregarding the facts. even if i'd have been wrong guessing his "motives", his outburst should ring a bell for a socionist, shouldn't it? i mean, what would one expect from a LII other than a debate based on logical arguments?
    If he's not trying to convince anyone of his type, then he's not going to bother producing arguments.
    i respect any type and i already said (for how many times) that IEI is one of my favourites, so my disregard towards him or other malicious intentions are out of the problem.
    Yeah, I realise that. (c:
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    i fully agree with ephemeros that tuturututu does not look anything like an LII from this short fragment. i am not ready to say anything about what his type might be beyond this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    lmao.

    brilliant.

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    Fascinating theoretical digression.
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    Tuturututu for president
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    Another vid..

    URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYl2n1hzRY

    i'm in love with you. lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuturututu View Post
    lol I love this so much.
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    Lmao at the last video.

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    Tuturututu, you are now my favorite forum member.
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    LMAO!

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