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    Default Quick recognition Information Elements

    Introvert Sensing
    Information : Surroundings, Physical sensations
    Behaviour : Awareness

    Extravert Sensing
    Information : Colors, Spacial, Desire
    Behaviour : Observant

    Introvert Intuition
    Information : Consequences, Planning
    Behaviour : Imaginative

    Extravert Intuition
    Information : Possibilities, Potential, Essence
    Behaviour : Ideas

    Introvert Logic
    Information : Procedures, Links
    Behaviour : Analysing

    Extravert Logic
    Information : Efficiency, Profit, Facts, Rules
    Behaviour : Business-like

    Introvert Ethics
    Information : Morality, Status of relationships, Necessities
    Behaviour : Caring

    Extravert Ethics
    Information : Harmony, Roles people play
    Behaviour : Emotions

    Feel free to post if there are improvements that I can implement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Introvert Sensing
    Information : Surroundings, Physical sensations
    Behaviour : Awareness

    Extravert Sensing
    Information : Colors, Spacial, Desire
    Behaviour : Observant

    Introvert Intuition
    Information : Consequences, Planning
    Behaviour : Imaginative

    Extravert Intuition
    Information : Possibilities, Potential, Essence
    Behaviour : Ideas

    Introvert Logic
    Information : Procedures, Links
    Behaviour : Analysing

    Extravert Logic
    Information : Efficiency, Profit, Facts, Rules
    Behaviour : Business-like

    Introvert Ethics
    Information : Morality, Status of relationships, Necessities
    Behaviour : Caring

    Extravert Ethics
    Information : Harmony, Roles people play
    Behaviour : Emotions

    Feel free to post if there are improvements that I can implement.
    looks very concise and accurate.
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    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Extroverted sensing









    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    I think these are fine. I would say (imo) that Te can make "links" as well as Ti. Te makes connections with facts I suppose. Ti to me is more a critique of the knowledge than an application of the knowledge. I think Te could be said to be the need and the desire to learn and to know in order to make a decision..... but ... I digress ... I'm getting off tangent! As I think what you have wrote is fine.

    So what you wrote, short and sweet. It makes sense and it's straightforward and useable IRL situations. (Socionics theory is one thing to discuss, but to apply it in practical situations, it requires a certain efficiency and straightforwardness (is that my Te saying that? Perhaps, or maybe it is common sense )

    So I suppose different people want to look at socionics for different things... some people perhaps the theory is more important than the action, which would mean some people would want to make a bigger deal and "play" of the functions and other things.

    Don't think socionics has to be rocket science. I like and overall agree with ya

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    jarno you are too underestimated
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    jarno you are too underestimated
    We Dutch in general are. It's because we're such a tiny country, easy to overlook,. If only people would listen to us more...
    The future of Socionics:
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    Many black Americans are SEE type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    We Dutch in general are. It's because we're such a tiny country, easy to overlook,. If only people would listen to us more...
    The Dutch are friendly and they know how to get the job done!. For instance, Jarno:

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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Well you're thinking wrong, then. It's just a different form of the element. Granted it can happen that an (Se) behavior (or what you choose to view as an Se behavior) can be motivated by an (Ti), or any other, internal process ..
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    I think that's good stuff, Jarno. It's concise and makes sense.

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    sorry i dont see the difference between Se and Si all that much..being aware is the same thing as being observant. Seriously whats the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smccosker View Post
    sorry i dont see the difference between Se and Si all that much..being aware is the same thing as being observant. Seriously whats the difference?
    Yes I was thinking about that too.

    Aware is more aware for danger and aware of your body, while observant is pointed outward to the world?

    But maybe I should change them, do you have suggestions? Observant could be changed into attention drawing behaviour, but it might be to general since all extraverts do that a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    And also, I don't think you can attribute behavior to information elements.
    uhhh? you are familiar with socionics?

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    The way your perceive information will affect your actions.

    The end.

    Possible names I've been thinkin about:

    Se = External Attributes
    Ne = Internal Attributes

    Te = External Paths/Vectors
    Fe = Internal Paths/Vectors

    Ti = External Links
    Fi = Internal Links

    Si = External Flows/Auras
    Ni = Internal Flows/Auras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Introvert Sensing
    Information : Surroundings, Physical sensations, Harmony
    Behaviour : Awareness

    Extravert Sensing
    Information : Concrete, Spacial, Facts
    Behaviour : Observant

    Introvert Intuition
    Information : Consequence, Macro-Possibility
    Behaviour : Imaginative

    Extravert Intuition
    Information : Micro-possibility, Associations
    Behaviour : Ideas

    Introvert Logic
    Information : Logical Systems, True/False
    Behaviour : Analysing

    Extravert Logic
    Information : Efficiency, Process
    Behaviour : Business-like

    Introvert Ethics
    Information : Moral/Qualitative Systems, Good/Bad
    Behaviour : Caring (not so sure)

    Extravert Ethics
    Information : Roles, Behaviours, Moods
    Behaviour : Emotions (not so sure)
    I'm not sure that I'm a fan of the behavioral suggestions, but I think I agree with the gist of what you've said in most of the Information sections. I went through and reworded it to reflect my own understanding, highlighted in bold.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Possible names I've been thinkin about:

    Se = External Attributes
    Ne = Internal Attributes

    Te = External Paths/Vectors
    Fe = Internal Paths/Vectors

    Ti = External Links
    Fi = Internal Links

    Si = External Flows/Auras
    Ni = Internal Flows/Auras
    I agree with you, kind of, but I don't think that you're really doing anything by renaming things. None of these seems any clearer than "Internal Dynamic of Fields" etc, nor do I think that Si or Ni are about "Auras". I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    I'm not sure that I'm a fan of the behavioral suggestions, but I think I agree with the gist of what you've said in most of the Information sections. I went through and reworded it to reflect my own understanding, highlighted in bold.
    Thanks! Those are some useful additions.

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