Question for Fe creatives

[Rubicon]

Generally speaking, would you say you notice the emotional content of a conversation/situation before anything else? Like say someone popped up in your face out of the blue and fired a question at you ... what would hit you first - the words themselves or the intent behind them?

[strrrng]

Generally speaking, would you say you notice the emotional content of a conversation/situation before anything else? Like say someone popped up in your face out of the blue and fired a question at you ... what would hit you first - the words themselves or the intent behind them?

I wouldn't necessarily say that I notice it before anything else, as I tend to be more Ni focused. But as far as emotional content compares to things like tangible appearance, direct meaning, etc., I would definitely say yes. It's like, when a person/situation presents itself, I immediately start monitoring what I see as the internal energy going on behind it. It doesn't even have to be as simple as intentions behind a person's words; I could see some cars passing by and gets 'pulses' about what is 'really' going on with them, if that makes sense. Granted, Si or Ni will significantly color the manner in which these impressions are interpreted, but nonetheless. With people, it's always a radar. But it's effortless; when they speak to me, perform an action, anything... I have no sense of what they are actually doing, but I am still 'watching' them, so it's more of why they're doing it or something. Like a spinning top... it's spinning, right? That's the Te of it, the tangible activity. But the energy inside of it that is changing and affecting its motions... that's what Fe sees.

[Khola aka Bee]

If I'm seeing them face-to-face, the intent always hits me first. This is more difficult online- I find it much harder to read people on, for instance, msn, because pretty much all of my ability to read people seems to rely upon their body language.

[diljs]

If I'm seeing them face-to-face, the intent always hits me first. This is more difficult online- I find it much harder to read people on, for instance, msn, because pretty much all of my ability to read people seems to rely upon their body language.

Nice to have confirmation on this. I've gotten the vibe in non face to face communications with duals that this was a big issue for them. If I'm not in front of them it's almost impossible to have an actual conversation. It's a problem for me too, I want SEIs to be reading me just as much as you need to read people.

[Mediator Kam]

I think bee hit the answer straight on.

[Khola aka Bee]

Nice to have confirmation on this. I've gotten the vibe in non face to face communications with duals that this was a big issue for them. If I'm not in front of them it's almost impossible to have an actual conversation. It's a problem for me too, I want SEIs to be reading me just as much as you need to read people.

Thank goodness I'm not alone! I was starting to get a complex!! Thankyou!! <3

[implied]

If I'm seeing them face-to-face, the intent always hits me first. This is more difficult online- I find it much harder to read people on, for instance, msn, because pretty much all of my ability to read people seems to rely upon their body language.

i rely on this somewhat, too. i don't think this is entirely related to Fe really, although i suppose it could be. some people are marvelous at getting their intent across through online communications. with other people i find that conversations can miss something -- or i can completely miss the "tone" -- if they're not in front of me.

[diljs]

i rely on this somewhat, too. i don't think this is entirely related to Fe really, although i suppose it could be. some people are marvelous at getting their intent across through online communications. with other people i find that conversations can miss something -- or i can completely miss the "tone" -- if they're not in front of me.

I'm fairly certain it is entirely related to Fe ego. Maybe you learned it from one? I myself value the ability but am naturally terrible at it.

[implied]

I'm fairly certain it is entirely related to Fe ego. Maybe you learned it from one? I myself value the ability but am naturally terrible at it.

possibly, but then how do you explain things like some SLIs here talking about "phone phobia"? that's another arena where information is unclear. things like eye contact are often considered essential to knowing whether someone is telling the truth or not, and this is on a really basic level, not one that i think can possibly be "absolutely 100%" functionally related. if that's the case then anyone who prefers face to face communication over internet communication is somehow necessarily Fe. that doesn't make any sense.

[marooned]

In person and on the phone: I find "reading people" easy and automatic. I definitely notice intent more than content.

On the forum: Well, naturally I have constructed concepts of most everyone who posts here regularly. I think meaning and tone comes clearly usually, and there is the context of threads and posts to help.

Chat: If it's someone I know irl I usually find reading them easy and automatic. If it's someone I don't know irl, I may start encountering problems in figuring out tone, intent, etc.

I do think that the invention of emoticons for online communication might have something to do with (obviously). I think for types, the rest of it has something to do with as well. And that is all.

[diljs]

possibly, but then how do you explain things like some SLIs here talking about "phone phobia"? that's another arena where information is unclear. things like eye contact are often considered essential to knowing whether someone is telling the truth or not, and this is on a really basic level, not one that i think can possibly be "absolutely 100%" functionally related. if that's the case then anyone who prefers face to face communication over internet communication is somehow necessarily Fe. that doesn't make any sense.

Which SLIs exactly? I'm looking at a current thread about SLIs where IAnnAu summed up their viewpoint nicely, and it is quite different:

http://the16types.info/vbulletin/sho...6&postcount=22

I'm not saying anything is absolutely 100%, but in generally I'd relate what Bee said to Fe ego types. The way that others pay attention to eye contact, body language, etc is different than a pure Fe type. I could be wrong but I'm guessing that you've LEARNED the behaviors that you're identifying with.

[diljs]

I do think that the invention of emoticons for online communication might have something to do with (obviously). I think for types, the rest of it has something to do with as well. And that is all.

Mos Def.

[Park]

Like say someone popped up in your face out of the blue and fired a question at you ... what would hit you first - the words themselves or the intent behind them?

Both, and I agree with implied.

[Khola aka Bee]

Over the phone is ok- you can still hear intonations in the voice.....on msn is so..clinical.

[strrrng]

Over the phone is ok- you can still hear intonations in the voice.....on msn is so..clinical.

Agreed.