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    spill, people!
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    Cause dramas, order me around, kill my spontanity
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    i will answer my own question:
    you need to KILL ME. A paradox? Maybe. But that is the only way.
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    • Play innocent when you know and I know you've done something wrong
    • Make the same mistakes over and over again despite me patiently showing you over and over again how to resolve it
    • Make me feel like you don't understand me
    • Appear to not listen to me when I'm speaking to you
    • Misinterpret what I say and then use that information against me

    ETA: I agree that hate is a strong word. I would say it frustrates me more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    i will answer my own question:
    you need to KILL ME. A paradox? Maybe. But that is the only way.
    Quite true though, when I think about it, hate is a very strong word. I don't remember hating someone, just hating certain traits of people.
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    ... tell me I've done something wrong without having all the required information or out of preconceived ideas about what's wrong or right.

    unforgivable sin: tell me I did something wrong when I have actually done very well.
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    Have a very blasé attitude about your job when you have responsibility, and I end up going in after you to take care of it because you don't care about your responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    unforgivable sin: tell me I did something wrong when I have actually done very well.
    ugh *shakes head* I'm frustrated just thinking about that.
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    to make me hate you, i need you to place 8 billion unreasonable demands on me about how to get along with you.
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    Harm people I care about, animal cruelty, basically people who get pleasure from inflicting suffering on others.

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    Break my trust; prove disloyal to me or someone I care about.
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    Too many ways to list. Honestly.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Be more than 45 minutes late everywhere.
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    the easiest way is for you to say something stupid and act like you know what you're talking about and argue with me about it, and i already hate most of you on this board. well.. you know, it actually varies across different social situations. in real life i'd say it's to be loud over stupid things and judgmental over stupid things.
    or in discussions it's to try to gain alpha male status over me, or for females it's to act like you're a queen
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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    ugh *shakes head* I'm frustrated just thinking about that.
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    Probably pay no attention whatsoever to the writer, artist 'background music' where people sort things out psychologically, internally. So they can't be truly self-renewing.

    I've learned that, I don't care if you're busy or pushy, as long as you can discuss internal processes. I think people are really onto something here, if they take psychology/self-help seriously. But everything worth taking seriously, is worth making fun of- so you should do it in humor.

    That's why I'm addicted to philosophical, idealistic media with good moral messages that are never too preachy. I think this is because, I grew up in a family where basically, self-hatred and learning how to forgive were taught rather than going on the offensive.

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    Basically I'm all about seeing my true internal moods and struggles displayed externally. Either through a work of art or whatever.

    I'm not talking about a play with everything, but the exact philosophical struggle acted out. Buffy had tons of this.

    Pink's new song, umm what's it called has the same thing. She's an SLE isn't she? Yeah, Betas are good at this I think.

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    Say something stupid in a knowing tone (and continue to express it in the face of logic); impose your idiocy and arrogance on me, in some expectance of my deference; be a maudlin faggot; convey a lack of self-sufficiency and willpower.
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    not wipe your ass and walk past me while im watching a football game
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    There’s not anyone I really hate, but there are people I avoid... people who are passive-aggressive; turn everything into a melodrama; whine/complain a lot; and/or seem untrustworthy; etc.

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    Overly aggressive, loud, emotional and judgemental people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Overly aggressive, loud, emotional and judgemental people.
    hello beta extroverts
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    hello beta extroverts
    yeah, ha...sorry gilly

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    Ritella,

    If you hate me it's your problem, not mine.

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    It doesn't happen often but I usually hate loud, overly hyper, annoying, giddy, dumb people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Overly aggressive, loud, emotional and judgemental people.
    sounds like me
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    exist
    Pretty much.
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    It doesn't happen often but I usually hate loud, overly hyper, annoying, giddy, dumb people.
    Hate is what I feel for you
    And I want you to know that I want you dead
    You're late for the execution
    If you're not here soon, I'll kill your friend instead

    I can be loud, hyper and annoying. Giddy and dumb.

    But then I can also be quiet, overly subdued, placating, and considerate.

    That said, I don't really mind if people oscillate between love and hate.

    One of the greatest feelings in the world, is when some girl says "You piss me off more than anyone else I know. Not even .. (various people that they are around often) can piss me as much as you do. Maybe it's some kind of sadistic side to me, but to me it feels damn good to know that I can really get to people, and make them feel something, even if it's hate. It's just L .. I .. F .. E

    I remember when I was young, sometimes people used to spin out, and they'd get really pissed off at me. Like really really pissed off at me. They'd yell, they'd scream, they'd curse. They'd nearly hit me. And I'd just take it, and they would keep trying to increase the amount of intensity they were throwing at me. And for some reason I kind of liked that. Thing is, afterwards, sometimes it'd be like "I feel better now", and to me, it's like I kind of liked it when people were ready-to-express. I didn't like to feel like people were holding back, that they were constantly trying to control their feelings, and the effect of them. That sometimes they just went with whatever they felt in the moment, whether or not it made sense, whether rational or irrational. Unconsidered, unhindered, uncompromised. Just raw pure expression.

    Thing is - as soon as you allow people to be completely raw with you, they find it hard to stay with feelings of hate. Most people, they can't fully engage in the moment, towards you, and actually continue with hate. They have to go off to the side, they have to try and "shift" it to being about something else etc. They can't go straight at you, fill of hate, they'll say "I hate you" whilst not looking directly at you etc. Even the people, who can look you in the eye and tell you that they hate you, it's like they go kind of vacant in the eyes. It's like they want to see you react to their "hate" they want to "move" you they want to "shift" you, they find it hard to stay with their feelings unless you are emotionally effected, shifted, affected by their feelings of hate.

    And so really, it's quite safe, you just make sure people, are completely direct, try and help them be open, allow them to say what it is that they feel etc -

    And you'll notice most people will stutter, they'll start bending their words, they'll try and compromise their position, in order to "ensure" their hate, and then they start to reduce themselves, at their own expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    Quite true though, when I think about it, hate is a very strong word. I don't remember hating someone, just hating certain traits of people.
    Actually scratch that, all you need is to wake me up in the morning
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    I've only hated two people recently. Both Betas, one a definite ESTp. You have to be a total jerk. The kind that smacks females 'cause there's nothing else to do. I only hate people who are hated by almost everyone else first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    Hate is what I feel for you
    And I want you to know that I want you dead
    You're late for the execution
    If you're not here soon, I'll kill your friend instead

    I can be loud, hyper and annoying. Giddy and dumb.

    But then I can also be quiet, overly subdued, placating, and considerate.

    That said, I don't really mind if people oscillate between love and hate.

    One of the greatest feelings in the world, is when some girl says "You piss me off more than anyone else I know. Not even .. (various people that they are around often) can piss me as much as you do. Maybe it's some kind of sadistic side to me, but to me it feels damn good to know that I can really get to people, and make them feel something, even if it's hate. It's just L .. I .. F .. E

    I remember when I was young, sometimes people used to spin out, and they'd get really pissed off at me. Like really really pissed off at me. They'd yell, they'd scream, they'd curse. They'd nearly hit me. And I'd just take it, and they would keep trying to increase the amount of intensity they were throwing at me. And for some reason I kind of liked that. Thing is, afterwards, sometimes it'd be like "I feel better now", and to me, it's like I kind of liked it when people were ready-to-express. I didn't like to feel like people were holding back, that they were constantly trying to control their feelings, and the effect of them. That sometimes they just went with whatever they felt in the moment, whether or not it made sense, whether rational or irrational. Unconsidered, unhindered, uncompromised. Just raw pure expression.

    Thing is - as soon as you allow people to be completely raw with you, they find it hard to stay with feelings of hate. Most people, they can't fully engage in the moment, towards you, and actually continue with hate. They have to go off to the side, they have to try and "shift" it to being about something else etc. They can't go straight at you, fill of hate, they'll say "I hate you" whilst not looking directly at you etc. Even the people, who can look you in the eye and tell you that they hate you, it's like they go kind of vacant in the eyes. It's like they want to see you react to their "hate" they want to "move" you they want to "shift" you, they find it hard to stay with their feelings unless you are emotionally effected, shifted, affected by their feelings of hate.

    And so really, it's quite safe, you just make sure people, are completely direct, try and help them be open, allow them to say what it is that they feel etc -

    And you'll notice most people will stutter, they'll start bending their words, they'll try and compromise their position, in order to "ensure" their hate, and then they start to reduce themselves, at their own expense.
    wow...that made perfect sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    Hate is what I feel for you
    And I want you to know that I want you dead
    You're late for the execution
    If you're not here soon, I'll kill your friend instead
    Ouch.

    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    I can be loud, hyper and annoying. Giddy and dumb.
    But not in a way that I find particularly annoying Merky, in fact, quite the opposite. This is what the magic of duality is, my friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    One of the greatest feelings in the world, is when some girl says "You piss me off more than anyone else I know. Not even .. (various people that they are around often) can piss me as much as you do. Maybe it's some kind of sadistic side to me, but to me it feels damn good to know that I can really get to people, and make them feel something, even if it's hate. It's just L .. I .. F .. E

    I remember when I was young, sometimes people used to spin out, and they'd get really pissed off at me. Like really really pissed off at me. They'd yell, they'd scream, they'd curse. They'd nearly hit me. And I'd just take it, and they would keep trying to increase the amount of intensity they were throwing at me. And for some reason I kind of liked that. Thing is, afterwards, sometimes it'd be like "I feel better now", and to me, it's like I kind of liked it when people were ready-to-express. I didn't like to feel like people were holding back, that they were constantly trying to control their feelings, and the effect of them. That sometimes they just went with whatever they felt in the moment, whether or not it made sense, whether rational or irrational. Unconsidered, unhindered, uncompromised. Just raw pure expression.

    Thing is - as soon as you allow people to be completely raw with you, they find it hard to stay with feelings of hate. Most people, they can't fully engage in the moment, towards you, and actually continue with hate. They have to go off to the side, they have to try and "shift" it to being about something else etc. They can't go straight at you, fill of hate, they'll say "I hate you" whilst not looking directly at you etc. Even the people, who can look you in the eye and tell you that they hate you, it's like they go kind of vacant in the eyes. It's like they want to see you react to their "hate" they want to "move" you they want to "shift" you, they find it hard to stay with their feelings unless you are emotionally effected, shifted, affected by their feelings of hate.

    And so really, it's quite safe, you just make sure people, are completely direct, try and help them be open, allow them to say what it is that they feel etc -

    And you'll notice most people will stutter, they'll start bending their words, they'll try and compromise their position, in order to "ensure" their hate, and then they start to reduce themselves, at their own expense.
    This struck me as very SLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    But not in a way that I find particularly annoying Merky, in fact, quite the opposite. This is what the magic of duality is, my friend.
    Either that or Starfall is some kind of strange crystal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Either that or Starfall is some kind of strange crystal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Ouch.
    That was from a lame song.

    But not in a way that I find particularly annoying Merky, in fact, quite the opposite. This is what the magic of duality is, my friend.
    Hah

    This struck me as very SLE.
    Curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Either that or Starfall is some kind of strange crystal.
    That means I can sell her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    wow...that made perfect sense

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    To make me hate you, I need you to---
    Kick people when they are down, take advantage of their weaknesses.
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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    I dunno. I don't hate anyone. It would take a lot.

    To make me dislike you, you could boss me around all the time and go around shoving the rules in everyone's face so that nobody has any fun.

    hurt someone I love

    force me to clean the bathrooms
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