JuJu

[Joy]

SEE

[strrrng]

Fuck no. He's Fe-INFp 4w3 sx/sp. I've never met someone as eerily similar to me in my life.

[UDP]

You're drunk/joking, or being serious? I can't tell.

[Park]

It was obvious to me since the first time he spoke to niffweed17.

[Gilly]

I can see where SEE comes from, but Beta NF is much more likely IMO.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Slacker]

I don't see Se at all.

[Ritella]

It was obvious to me since the first time he spoke to niffweed17.

excellent point.

[Joy]

If I was willing to take niffweed's intertype relations into consideration when I type people, there would only be three people in his quadra (at the most).

[Ritella]

If I was willing to take niffweed's intertype relations into consideration when I type people, they would only be three people in his quadra (at the most).

i love it.

a tangent, but: my main contention with niffweed's intertype relationship theory is that he seems (to me) to say things like "X gets along with Beta. ergo X is Beta." I don't think he takes into account the many non-socionic factors that go into how well people get along. There are plenty of Betas here who I like over Deltas here, because I just do.
I think arguments like that only work if you say something like "X shows obvious Fe-seeking in his relationship with Y, so X is..."

[strrrng]

i love it.

a tangent, but: my main contention with niffweed's intertype relationship theory is that he seems (to me) to say things like "X gets along with Beta. ergo X is Beta." I don't think he takes into account the many non-socionic factors that go into how well people get along. There are plenty of Betas here who I like over Deltas here, because I just do.
I think arguments like that only work if you say something like "X shows obvious Fe-seeking in his relationship with Y, so X is..."

+50

[Joy]

i love it.

a tangent, but: my main contention with niffweed's intertype relationship theory is that he seems (to me) to say things like "X gets along with Beta. ergo X is Beta." I don't think he takes into account the many non-socionic factors that go into how well people get along. There are plenty of Betas here who I like over Deltas here, because I just do.
I think arguments like that only work if you say something like "X shows obvious Fe-seeking in his relationship with Y, so X is..."

I definitely think there's often something to it when people tend to get along really well with most people from one quadra and not so well with people of other quadras (this is usually more noticeable in one axis more than another, of course), but I don't think it's as simple as that. Ezra, for example seems to get along best with the Gammas here, yet I do think he's SLE. There are also people who don't really seem to get along all that well with much of anyone who obviously still have to belong to one of the four quadras. Similarly, there are people who tend to get along with most people, yet they can only belong to one quadra.

Anyways, my point is that I do not take niffweed's relationship with people into consideration at all when I'm typing them.

[Joy]

I don't see the Se either, btw.

[Joy]

I was pretty much just throwing out a suggestion for discussion. I had no idea that such a strong general consensus had been formed in Beta regarding his type, which is interesting. I'm not going to argue for his being SEE because, like I said, I don't see the Se either.

That said, based solely on what little I know about him and on the conversations I've had with him, Fi subtype SEE doesn't seem completely out of the question.

I'm quite content just to ride with IEI for the time being though, as I don't currently have any major objections to it and the Betas here seem to identify with him.

[Joy]

I don't think ESI makes sense though, btw. The IJ temperament just isn't there. At least not from what I've seen.

[Ritella]

my initial thoughts of Juju were actually IxFP and then IEI. But the more I talk to him the more I can honestly see IEEish qualities, which makes me wonder.

[Joy]

Yeah, I still don't have any major complaints with IEE, either. I don't particularly see Ne dominance any more than Se dominance though. There's a certain quality that Ne dominant males (and sometimes females, but more so the males) have that he doesn't.

And don't ask me to explain that quality. Seriously.

[Ritella]

Yeah, I still don't have any major complaints with IEE, either.

yeah it's funny b/c i go back and forth a lot. my biggest concern is really that juju "appears" IEI, but he's really IEE, because we've just gotten so used to associating certain phrases and expressions to certain elements when they're not necc. manifestations of that.
for example, before i learned about socionics, at some points in my life, i probably would have described myself as a strongly "impassioned" person or something. Now, that sounds very EIE, but like what I meant would have been more along the lines of idealistic, or other words that are more typically EII. Basically, were I to have described myself, I think people here would have thought EIE based on my word choices. But if anyone had actually observed me in real life, they would have realized that EII is very clear. also, before socionics (and i think this applies to most people) I would never have thought my leading function was my biggest strength. In fact, I would always have convos with my SLI friend where I would go "Isn't this obvious to everyone?" and she would be like "ummm no."

[Wynch]

Oh my gosh. Seriously? Watch JuJu in videos discussing things. That man is so dynamic. BLAH

[strrrng]

Oh my gosh. Seriously? Watch JuJu in videos discussing things. That man is so dynamic. BLAH

Dude, he's just the epitome of a beta. I've never enjoyed discussing where people fit in the 'hierarchy' with anyone else so much before lol.

[olduser]

lolol