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    i am writing an IEI description (edit: the description is here, btw.) and finding it very difficult to write. though the description is very much in the preliminary stages (with the two functions that i expect to be most difficult to convey appropriately covered so far), i would appreciate feedback, suggestions, and any other commentary unless you are any of the following users (the composition of this list is probably fairly intuitive for most of you):


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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    i would appreciate feedback, suggestions, and any other commentary unless you are any of the following users (the composition of this list is probably fairly intuitive for most of you):
    I think this is the best illustration of Fe PoLR in INTPs we've had to date.
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    In other words, Niffweed doesn't want responses from anyone who could provide a strong counter-point to what he writes.

    Some things don't change. (Alas.)

    I give you credit though, Niffweed... Recently, you've become increasingly reasonable in other ways--or so it seems. (I think your description is pretty good so far--not that it matters.)

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    Your language is a bit wanky. Tone it down a bit, you want something that everyone can read.

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    Niffweed, please place me on the list of people you don't want feedback from. I'm insulted at the thought that you might value what I have to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRiddy View Post
    Niffweed, please place me on the list of people you don't want feedback from. I'm insulted at the thought that you might value what I have to think.
    fwiw, you should be.

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    Screw that. I'm going to tell you what I think anyway.

    I liked it! I really have no problems with that. It's one of the best descriptions I've heard.

    But this:

    They can come across as fickle, indecisive and vapid, and their fantasies can be often esoteric or obscure.
    On cam especially, I think I do I come across as rather fickle, indecisive and vapid.... and my fantasies can be somewhat esoteric, but I disagree with 'obscure.'

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    Whoever wrote that SLE description sucks though. SLEs really aren't that um... assholeish. Yeah they're definitely in-charge types, but down it tone a few notches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Screw that. I'm going to tell you what I think anyway.

    I liked it! I really have no problems with that. It's one of the best descriptions I've heard.
    Funny. Out of all of the people he has typed as IEI, Esper and I are the ones he is most confident about.

    I didn't relate to any of it.




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    Strange that I'm excluded to make any suggestions to this IEI description of God Niffweed, since he is the one who types me as an IEI (!)
    Last edited by Jarno; 11-16-2008 at 12:29 PM.

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    I think this description is very good! I don't see myself as mystical although maybe other IEIs do. And I was thinking, if the description is for people other than IEIs, it may be good to include since others could certainly view us as mystical, even if we don't see ourselves that way.

    I like so many of the words you used: dreamy, gentle, fickle, indecisive, vapid, inactive, prophetic, profound, rebellious, outspoken. yes, those are all terribly true!

    it's a great description. quite likely, the best I've read for IEIs.
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    Edit, okay...that was a little rude of me. Sorry Niffweed. Hey, I really like the description of SLI....I've never seen those descriptions before.
    Last edited by jessica129; 11-16-2008 at 04:19 PM. Reason: Was a little harsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Edit, okay...that was a little rude of me. Sorry Niffweed. Hey, I really like the description of SLI....I've never seen those descriptions before.
    it was nice of you to edit that. thanks.
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    I don't know why everybody is suddenly going so mild to Niffweed.

    Isn't it obvious he started this topic in a very provocative way??

    He is always looking for conflicts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    I don't know why everybody is suddenly going so mild to Niffweed.

    Isn't it obvious he started this topic in a very provocative way??

    He is always looking for conflicts.
    well, maybe. maybe not. but further provocation doesn't contribute positively to the general tenor of the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    Edit: I actually find the description in the ILI section very good. Why not try to get the IEI -description closer to that one? I mean it shouldn't be all that different, should it? As the IEI-description is now, the focus is too much on "fantasy". It isn't wrong, just very one-sided and in my eyes negative. I guess others could perceive SOME IEIs that way, but I know people perceive ME as intelligent, and the same goes for a lot of other IEIs I know. They are school smart, work smart or quite simply smart. The -description here tells more about "mystical abilities" than intelligence. It should be more balanced, IMO.

    well, i think that description generally communicates aspects of factual criticalness and skepticism that are more appropriate to Ni with Te than they might be for IEIs. certainly, something of an intellectual slant could be addressed for IEIs, but i certainly don't think it should be the main emphasis of the description.

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    I liked it, it was actually very good.

    IEIs sometimes exacerbate this problem by getting lost in their thoughts, and are often prone to having difficulty expressing their inner perceptions to others effectively.
    While apparently this is not true of Mimosa Pudica, it is very true of me. Sometimes I'll just give up and remain silent because I know I'll have too much difficulty with it; like trying is more effort than it's actually worth.

    Often IEIs exhibit a dreamy and gentle demeanor. They can come across as fickle, indecisive and vapid, and their fantasies can be often esoteric or obscure. They also can demonstrate a lack of attentiveness to daily affairs, and sometimes a generally withdrawn, inactive deportment. At the same time, they sometimes can be prophetic, prescient, and profound in their visions, and sometimes reflect a far more rebellious, aggressive, or outspoken demeanor.
    They may exhibit a propensity for good-natured, friendly, lighthearted banter and try to promote good will and inclusiveness. On the other hand, some IEIs may adopt a mode of expression that limits their affable levity; they may take on a formal, toxic, serious, or even shock-jock emphasis as situations require.
    Haha, yep. I'd hate to admit it, but it's true; though not many actually get to view this side of myself, because I'm good at keeping it under wraps. We can be extremely overactive with our emotions, and I know that I have had a tendency to lash out at hurt the ones I love because of it, sometimes even hurting myself. Despite all of this, I'm good at maintaining myself in a respectable way to the 'public', if that makes any sense. Think Audrey Hepburn or Princess Diana - sunny and composed on the outside, yet so tragic and disarrayed on the inside. I do see myself as having very good morals though... strong morals. I think I'm also good at solving moral problems or situations, and I have a developed sense of seeing both sides of a particular issue, and judging a proper solution. A lot of my friends will seek me out for advice because of this.

    I've noted a more noticeably 'public' aggressive behavior in some IEI's though, and it's usually more noticeable in the males (such as my father), but there are definitely exceptions when it comes to that. Arrogant, asshole behavior is definitely not uncommon among a lot of IEI's, especially the unhealthy ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    I don't know why everybody is suddenly going so mild to Niffweed.

    Isn't it obvious he started this topic in a very provocative way??

    He is always looking for conflicts.
    Take it from one who knows. It's not worth getting flustered... Deep down Niffweed means well.

    You have to remember, he is socially handicapped and uses Socionics as an excuse for this sort of unacceptable behavior, e.g. "I insulted you b/c I have a Fe polr."

    Once you accept this about Niffweed, you'll be able to take his provocations--which are usually just cries for recognition--with a shaker of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Take it from one who knows. It's not worth getting flustered... Deep down Niffweed means well.

    You have to remember, he is socially handicapped and uses Socionics as an excuse for this sort of unacceptable behavior, e.g. "I insulted you b/c I have a Fe polr."

    Once you accept this about Niffweed, you'll be able to take his provocations--which are usually just cries for recognition--with a shaker of salt.
    LOL!! Very true. I don't hold it against him either, but I think it some arbitrary way of delineating reality socially in order to create an illusion of control. I would attribute this to his being an so 5, which has a paradoxical need for external approval and detachment, resulting in that sort of petulant communicativeness (i.e. he's always "there" but still an ass).
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    i just saw what he did as preventing future aggravation for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Take it from one who knows. It's not worth getting flustered... Deep down Niffweed means well.

    You have to remember, he is socially handicapped and uses Socionics as an excuse for this sort of unacceptable behavior, e.g. "I insulted you b/c I have a Fe polr."

    Once you accept this about Niffweed, you'll be able to take his provocations--which are usually just cries for recognition--with a shaker of salt.

    ...

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    IEIs may feel strongly about these types of causes and some may expend considerable effort towards expressing their avidity towards them, even posing toxic criticism to those that do not share these deep moral callings. However, many other IEIs may lack the impulse or motivation to take this type of action at all.
    This seems a bit awkward of a statement to me.

    I have a feeling I know what you're trying to get at, though... if it is the tendency of IEIs to identify with strong ethical stances, and defend them tenaciously. Whether that's applied to a specific cause, or just a deeply held core belief, their reaction may be triggered by indifference or disagreement in another.

    Also, I find IEIs also might display the aristocratic tendency to disdain those not particularly inclined toward introspection as "shallow".
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    I bet that if you simply stopped attacking Niffy based in your own prejudice, you'll notice that many of the "annoying" things are in fact a mechanism of defense.

    I bet he's simply frustrated because many of us are either unwilling or incapable to deal with the issues that interest him, with the profundity required.
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    I think IEIs are bad at judging how shy/outgoing they're really being. I'm probably projecting a lot here, but it's like I am unable to accurately judge how quiet/loud I was being - and I have to rely on this trait in others. Like sometimes I think I was being 'too shy' when actually the opposite was true, and vice-versa.

    And it might seem to others that IEIs can like understand the subtle nuances in places, and are 'dreamy' but really - I think we're all just more anvilicious than that. I agree that we appear mystical to others, but it's not really necessarily how we see ourselves. I generally trust ESIs and EIIs more to do the whole moralizing/spiritual gig. I'm pretty self-conscious about my magical abilities, and I like things to stay that way because ironically I think it's how I gain the most social support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I think IEIs are bad at judging how shy/outgoing they're really being. I'm probably projecting a lot here, but it's like I am unable to accurately judge how quiet/loud I was being - and I have to rely on this trait in others. Like sometimes I think I was being 'too shy' when actually the opposite was true, and vice-versa.

    And it might seem to others that IEIs can like understand the subtle nuances in places, and are 'dreamy' but really - I think we're all just more anvilicious than that. I agree that we appear mystical to others, but it's not really necessarily how we see ourselves. I generally trust ESIs and EIIs more to do the whole moralizing/spiritual gig. I'm pretty self-conscious about my magical abilities, and I like things to stay that way because ironically I think it's how I gain the most social support.
    OMG - I just looked up "anvilicious" and it's exactly what it sounds like. That's friggin' hilarious.
    Now I gotta find some conversation to drop it into. It'll probably be in a way that's fairly anvilicious itself !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex View Post
    I bet that if you simply stopped attacking Niffy based in your own prejudice, you'll notice that many of the "annoying" things are in fact a mechanism of defense.
    I bet that if Niffy simply stopped attacking people based on his own prejudice, you'll notice that many of the "annoying" things are in fact defense mechanisms of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Screw that. I'm going to tell you what I think anyway.

    I liked it! I really have no problems with that. It's one of the best descriptions I've heard.

    But this:



    On cam especially, I think I do I come across as rather fickle, indecisive and vapid.... and my fantasies can be somewhat esoteric, but I disagree with 'obscure.'

    I would describe my behaviour as changeable rather than fickle, I stick by people, but I am easily won over when someone has done something 'bad' and so I can chop from distant&cold to bubbly&friendly...but I can see how I may come across as fickle.

    I love this description! It is awesome !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post

    Edit: I actually find the description in the ILI section very good. Why not try to get the IEI -description closer to that one? I mean it shouldn't be all that different, should it? As the IEI-description is now, the focus is too much on "fantasy". It isn't wrong, just very one-sided and in my eyes negative. I guess others could perceive SOME IEIs that way, but I know people perceive ME as intelligent, and the same goes for a lot of other IEIs I know. They are school smart, work smart or quite simply smart. The -description here tells more about "mystical abilities" than intelligence. It should be more balanced, IMO.


    IEIs may also demonstrate their phrenic activities by assessing connections, patterns, and implications of events in their experience, often with a human slant. They may seek to understand the dynamics and mechanisms of people, groups, relationships, situations, or experiences. They make judgments and assessments of others based on past trends and behaviors and seek to explain what makes others tick.


    how about this? i realize it's sort of more "ethics" oriented intellect, but it was mostly a synthesis of things touched on in other IEI descriptions. does this go towards addressing intellectual tendencies related to Ni at all?

    i have a hard time seeing how something like this might manifest. to me, an Ni description that reads like:
    ILIs are naturally attuned to hidden connections between things and hints of greater implications in everyday reality. They easily recognize patterns of events, repeating outcomes, and contradictory messages. This understanding of global patterns and human behavior often allows ILIs to critically analyze present situations and determine the immediate and far-reaching consequences of certain actions. This skill leads the ILI to be seen by others as generally intelligent. The mind of an ILI is an oasis of sorts where knowledge is treated as a toy or even a vehicle that allows them to visit complex mental landscapes that are shaped and continually revised by new information. Nonetheless, an ILI is likely to find the process of accumulating new information tiresome compared to their mental explorations; consequently, new information is often accumulated and updated in a rather lethargic, periodic, and occasionally incomplete fashion.
    ILIs are often stereotypically represented as reclusive scholars, philosophers, scientists, artists, seers, and sages. The ILI, with their often unusual perceptions, may come across as unreachable, esoteric eccentrics. Because ILIs are confident about analyzing the implications of the knowledge that they have gathered, ILIs often appear perceptive, especially in fields of interest, and commonly tend to view the ideas of others with skepticism and scrutiny. ILIs may perceive others' intellectual contributions as deeply misguided or limited in scope.
    ILIs predict inevitable disaster not altogether infrequently. This type of fatalism is spurned by their ability to see the negative in anything, which has its roots in the ILI's general dislike of expressing or reinforcing positive emotions. To an ILI, it may be easier to predict pessimistic results in order to avoid an unpleasant emotional reaction. Likewise, the ILI's sense of general self doubt leads him to be very conservative in his general outlook; why unnecessarily subject oneself to the uncertainty of possible disappointment?

    i think this is good material for Ni, but i think it also has sort of an invariable Te slant that i don't know how else to translate into Fe terms.

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    ILIs are naturally attuned to hidden connections between things and hints of greater implications in everyday reality. They easily recognize patterns of events, repeating outcomes, and contradictory messages. This understanding of global patterns and human behavior often allows ILIs to critically analyze present situations and determine the immediate and far-reaching consequences of certain actions. This skill leads the ILI to be seen by others as generally intelligent.
    I do feel that Ni is all about recognizing patterns in events, but where I think this differs from ILI (and yes, this has already been pointed out) is it's more related to and surrounded by the nature of ethics and the general symbols and timing of events surrounding human emotionalism. Internally knowing why one chooses to feel a certain way, ect. Being critical of the intents if peoples motives, which is why I personally think it's extremely hard to emotionally bullshit an IEI with manipulation tactics because they'll just internally pick everything apart. As far as the relation between Ni and intellect goes, I think people are naturally going to view Ni types as having at least some kind of higher knowledgeable 'inner knowing' among some subjects at least; an example of this would be, let's say... if you were to compare an IEI to an SEI (oh, let's just say Baby and Bionicgoat) - it doesn't matter which one is actually more intelligent or capable than the other, people are just naturally going to grasp a more knowledgeable impression from the IEI I think; could this have anything to do with Ni? Well, of course it could some things to do the individual 'person' that don't necessarily relate to type (like education), but I think I'd be able to see somewhat of a coincidental trend of differences between Si and Ni functions that give away seemingly subjective differences.

    i think this is good material for Ni, but i think it also has sort of an invariable Te slant that i don't know how else to translate into Fe terms.
    If it's any help, I think Filatova IEI description was rather accurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Filatova
    Ni – Introverted intuition, in the IEI, dictates that his consciousness is submerged in modeling time-related processes. He sails and flows, going both forward and backwards in time. His consciousness, in contrast to the ILI, is focused on ethics. He therefore focuses less on problems concerning the material world and production, preferring instead the development, in time, of human emotions and relations between people.

    Internally he observes that everything is in constant motion: the children run, the adults work, behaviors display patterns, rivers flow, the heavenly bodies move in the sky… time has an identifiable essence about it. A dreamer and romantic, the IEI is easily separated from reality and taken away, by his thoughts, into the vastness of his dreams where he scoops up happiness and ponders the meaning of his existence. He’s often drawn towards novels containing fantasy and adventure. In these he participates with imaginary heroes in their adventures. The IEI loves to give himself up, for long periods, to dreaming. His dreams, as a rule, focus on beautiful and elegant things: i.e. a round-the-world journey aboard a lavish ocean liner alongside a refined public, the luxurious cottage with a fireplace and white piano, the excellent love…

    However, the IEI also knows how to sense the ripening of events, to catch the barely noticeable fluidity and dynamics of moods within society. He precisely senses the moment, in time, in which he must act; he especially senses the approximation of crisis situations and danger, at which time he will appear visibly disturbed.

    He quite successfully catches on to other people’s characteristics, abilities and potentials. Thus he is sometimes drawn to people with the purpose of using them. In respect to his own abilities and talents there is an internal, frequently secret, conviction that he exceeds others in his spiritual aristocratism, considering himself as a member of an elite. However, as a rule he tries not to demonstrate this conviction.

    Introverted intuition, as the primary function, impedes others from observing the IEI. It is difficult to analyze his behavior and he is inclined to justify himself in everything. His tendency to ignore reality, and his difficulty in self-appraisal, may lead him to egocentrism and an excessive indulgence in his own imagined world.
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    Hey. I just noticed this list. I got a message from Niffweed on his forum saying I don't practice classical socionics. Considering I use dichotomies, temperaments, clubs, functions, type descriptions and real life examples i'm not quite sure what he's getting at.

    Needless to say I haven't posted there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    I agree with this! However I remember having read somewhere that IEIs are easily fooled by cons because they trust their perceptions too much. I don't think that is necessarily true for me. I rather never trust anything easily.
    Yes, a strong character trait I perceive within myself is my paranoid persona. I find it extremely hard to trust people until I've nitpicked everything about their character and past actions. I'm as good at spotting out the flaws of ones immoral actions from various data I've picked up as an ILI would be to point out the flaws of a bullshit theory. I find that I avoid personal mishaps because of this. I'm wondering if the whole 'being fooled by con's' thing has something more to do with the IEI's Te PoLR? I could think of lot's of examples where I could be 'conned' in various daily affairs that have absolutely nothing to do with the ethics of ones character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Yes, a strong character trait I perceive within myself is my paranoid persona. I find it extremely hard to trust people until I've nitpicked everything about their character and past actions. I'm as good at spotting out the flaws of ones immoral actions from various data I've picked up as an ILI would be to point out the flaws of a bullshit theory. I find that I avoid personal mishaps because of this.
    I prefer to think of it as "analytical" rather than paranoid. :wink:

    I do find that I have a very good sense of a person's character, even upon first meeting just by observing their comments and actions. While not judgemental, I can discern certain key points of their personality and ethical (or unethical) tendencies. I'm not easily fooled, but I can occasionally be sidetracked by what I *wish* were there, ie: the potential of someone. Like, there might be someone I really rather like a lot, yet recognize his character flaws, but look past them in the vain hope he'll choose to overcome them. I guess I set myself up to be disappointed this way, as people don't tend to change when you're constantly checking their progress. (And some seem to have no interest in personal growth).

    Because I take into account all aspects rather than just focusing on the "positive" aspects of people/situations when making judgements, I've frequently been accused of being a Doomsayer or critic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I'm wondering if the whole 'being fooled by con's' thing has something more to do with the IEI's Te PoLR? I could think of lot's of examples where I could be 'conned' in various daily affairs that have absolutely nothing to do with the ethics of ones character.
    I'd just disagree with being easily conned. It's really difficult to get one past me. I'm skeptical (some might say cynical) and do all my fact-checking before making decisions that involve my money or resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Hey. I just noticed this list. I got a message from Niffweed on his forum saying I don't practice classical socionics. Considering I use dichotomies, temperaments, clubs, functions, type descriptions and real life examples i'm not quite sure what he's getting at.

    Needless to say I haven't posted there.
    I once saw a post of Niffweed him claiming that typing should only be done using information elements... And now he says that others aren't using classical socionics?? hehe
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    http://socionics.ws/wiki/index.php?title=IEI

    this description is finished insamuch as it now contains content for eight functions.

    feedback is highly appreciated.

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    it's very very good.

    but somehow, I'm in love with this description:

    http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Socioscope_IEI

    there's something about it. I know it's google-translated and sometimes hard to understand, but so charming, so exactly right somehow. For example, the opening line:

    Before you, he is the person-riddle, the person-smile, the person-dream... Secret of pleasure. Pleasure of secret.

    that's just so great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    it's very very good.

    but somehow, I'm in love with this description:

    http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Socioscope_IEI

    there's something about it. I know it's google-translated and sometimes hard to understand, but so charming, so exactly right somehow. For example, the opening line:

    Before you, he is the person-riddle, the person-smile, the person-dream... Secret of pleasure. Pleasure of secret.

    that's just so great.
    sorry, i can't really read that with the shitty russian and all. i don't know exactly what i'm supposed to take away from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    niffweed I am really impressed by all the time you have put into that work!!

    Unfortunately I don't like the description. I find it "spaced out" and it seems to describe a mentally disturbed person who cannot function in the real world. If I were to type myself from that description, I'd say to myself "no, not that type". In other words I'd make a mistake because of it.
    can you point to anything more specific that you dislike about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica View Post
    It's not so much in the specifics as in the overall impression. I find it skewed. Nothing new from earlier feedback.
    well that's extremely unhelpful. i don't know what about the description gives you this impression, which is frankly not really what i see. given that most people seem to be saying that this is a good description and that they do not have suggestions for improvement, i definitely have no idea what to change based on this rather vague feedback.

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    okay, take this paragraph for instance:

    Oh, how interesting!

    It knows how to listen to the collocutor very sympathetically, it will try to help it council or at least by warm word, will express admiration of its mind and force. With the interest it will listen bragging, it will be glad to another's successes.
    The degree of its enthusiasm, in general, must not be perceived seriously. It is better to decrease its time in two or three - so it will be nearer to the truth.
    In the not too benevolent representatives of this type similar enthusiastic relation to the collocutor it can here be replaced to “the admiration” with the opposite sign, as soon as that will fall back to decent distance.


    I love that the paragraph is labeled "Oh, how interesting" because I say that all the time. Seriously, all the time. I like how the paragraph conveys that the IEI listens to bragging and is glad for the other, and enthusiastic. And then in the next line indicates that the person shouldn't take the enthusiasm too seriously but bring it down a couple of notches in their mind. haha

    I just like the way much of this is written/conveyed. I especially love the introduction:


    Before you, he is the person-riddle, the person-smile, the person-dream... Secret of pleasure. Pleasure of secret.
    I love life. I love each day: sunny, rainy, snowy. I love it when time stops, when the trees make noise, when sounds music, when beside a person with whom you can simply remain silent. I love to sit near the window in a thunderstorm, covered with a rug, and with a large cup of tea in hand. I love all that is warm, soft and furry. I love surprises. I love people who have something to teach; people who are unusual|unlike others; people who are beautiful outwardly and internally. I love love. And peaches (especially large).
    This is a fluffy, tender, affectionate kitten… which is sometimes ready to let out [kogotki].
    Now, the time has come to describe the [IEI] - time, living their own lives, flowing into those ringing they whimsical gave, the dreamy- dying, the rebellious.
    Do not look for the meaning of their words, listen to their music!
    In the soul is always stretched like taut like a string, which at any moment will break with the ringing! And it will be turn into echo… no music, and life.
    Ready? Then go.


    I sounds like it was written by an IEI. Yours is really good but very clearly not written by an IEI. Which is FINE, just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    well that's extremely unhelpful. i don't know what about the description gives you this impression, which is frankly not really what i see. given that most people seem to be saying that this is a good description and that they do not have suggestions for improvement, i definitely have no idea what to change based on this rather vague feedback.
    I don't want to speak for her, but maybe she is suggesting you change most of it/all of it?

    If someones going to put that much effort in, they may as well write one themselves. But I suppose being insulted by you should be reward enough for people going out their way to help you.

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