I came across this one, she VI's as an ESFP-Fi subtype.
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/2942...anst_buik.html
Nice benchmark I think.
Now if somebody could find her phonenumber so I can marry her...
movie ESFP-Fi
I came across this one, she VI's as an ESFP-Fi subtype.
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/2942...anst_buik.html
Nice benchmark I think.
Now if somebody could find her phonenumber so I can marry her...
Um, ew.
She's ISFp, imo. God, that's not ESFp.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
i'd like to see bg dance like that.
Well I'm not convinced that she is not ESFP. But I guess we'll hear more comments later on.Originally Posted by Allie
I don't know what arguments you have for it, but ESFP's are great dancers, lots of ESFP woman do street dance, salsa etc or are dance teacher. They are also seducive and sensual. More then ISFP's. She screams ESFP if you ask me. But my main argument is VI.
ESFPs are great dancers? Okay, lovely. What's your point?
Seductive and sensual to who? That may be your impression—both about ESFps as well as this girl in particular. I don't think she's seductive or sensual in the least bit. She has a "dead-behind-the-eyes" sort of miserableness in her face, her clothing makes her look (even more so) like a cheap whore, and her dancing only enhanced that. It was trashy and she tries waaayy too hard.
I don't know. One thing I've always admired about ESFps is their effortlessness about that sort of thing. Maybe that's theirleading or something. But ew, this girl just looks pathetic.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
I don't find her attractive at all. Maybe it's a matter of preference but she looks sort of miserable to me.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Yeah I agree, with both statements. She reminded bit like Bee to me actually. Crappy video for typing anyway. Her movements were unenergetic. Mostly it was her expression that was nothing ESFp-like at all.
For comparision ESFp (in leather pants):
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
She has the lowered mouth corners you usually see with ESFP's.
Also the big nose, the big lower part of face, and she reminds me of 2 ESFP's I know.
Sure VI isn't enough I agree. I can understand that people would think that she is an ISFP, but what I don't understand is why people can't see an ESFP-Fi in her.
I'm curious what Khamelion has to say about this.
This is an extremely seductive and sensual video, so I guess we have a different opinion on that :-)
wow, she VIs just like my good friend who looks like lucy lovelace, whom others have said is SEE too. i like confirming this kind of thing for my friends, which helps me understand who is who and who does what, etc. better.
Yep that leather girl is a good benchmark for ESFP-Se subtype.
She resembles someone I know too. Especially recognizable by her distinctive mouth and nose.
You could be right. I 've always found her strangely attractive. (personality wise)
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I'd go with the sweet subtype.
Now if I could only marry THAT...
*sigh*
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
That is an ESFP-Fi subtype.
I want to marry her too, I wonder how many I can handle. Ah what the heck, I'm gonna collect ESFP's.
I thought it was cold and kind of disgusting. There are small parts where there is a belly-dance aspect to it but then she goes and ruins it by making some gross jerking movement. And the clothing just makes it all the more unappealing.
The very end when she gets close was really really gross.
This is pretty strange coming from me...but I'm serious.
Her face makes her seem very boring too...even the dancing gets boring after a little while. She should try out doing belly-dancing instead of whatever street style this was supposed to be...and wear different clothes while doing it....the pants just don't work for those kinds of movements....
MEH
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I don't like her lisp....and it's hard to get over...>
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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Haha, that was pretty much my reaction. I'm nearing certainty that this girl is Fe-ISFp. I don't see how Jarno thinks she's Fi-ESFp at all.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
i agree with you, kham too.
I don't think ethical types have to be warm really. A lot of people describe me as cold, for example. And I'm pretty sure that everyone thinks I'm an ethical type, heh.
I dunno. I think we give off "warm" or "cold" vibes depending on the person receiving them. Some people have always and will always find me to be cold. They just don't get me at all. Then there's the people who can look past my ranting and pissed off expressions to realize I (shock) am a nice person.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
You're one cold bitch, yes.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Maybe? Not sure. A lot of Betas seem cold to me as well.But wouldn'tlook a lot warmer?
Or is that only Beta Fe ... ?
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
I'm more cold than warm. I find warmth comes when an ethical type values Si.But wouldn't
Or is that only Beta Fe ... ?
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3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
that's what i thought....
This reminds me why I often feel repelled by Alpha Fe.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
No. What ifmd95 (and others) pointed out is not a matter of perception, it's a fact that you have trouble understanding or refuse to acknowledge.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
You're ridiculously defensive and stubborn. And unintelligent.
And no.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
wait....so why are so many people hell-bent that she's an ethical type? logical types can have control over their body that way too, and might make a video for some reason or another. I can even imagine an ISFj doing it, if they have a specific reason.
/shrug
she could be ISTp, or ESTj if you think only Si sorts can move like that. ESFj too. I dont see how anyone can really figure out if she's Ip or Ej just from that. Or any temprement for that matter. however, for some reason i dont see her being Ep....
and mimosa....about your little avatar warm vs. cold thing...hmmmm....you know i dont see it as warm or cold....its kinda neutral. like...the woman would be the colder part of it...while the fire is the warmer element.....also the bubble implies cold to me as well....so i think what i feel from it is.......neutral and breezy.....like hot and cold meeting and making this environment that you can barely tell the difference between it and your own body temperature. does that make any sense?
Last edited by Khamelion; 11-14-2008 at 07:11 AM.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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Do we have any SEI girls on this forum, maybe they can give the final answer for this girl being an SEI.
I might post it in Alpha since now I'm getting curious.
Not SEE, not seductive; I agree with Winterpark - she actually looks really miserable. There is nothing in her eyes, nothing in her expression; the whole thing is PAINFULLY mechanical. No joy, no playfulness, no eye-fucking. I'm more inclined to think she's logical than ethical actually.
Moreover, from that video, I don't even think it can be concluded that she's a sensory type at all. I've taken all types of dance classes with my SEE friend and she openly concedes that I am a much better dancer than she is - I'm more 'mental' rather than 'instinctive' in my dancing, but anyone can, for concentrated periods of time, control their body if they have the inclination. Look at her expression - she's concentrating a great deal. Intuitives might look spazzier/more awkward in the way we naturally arrange our bodies because we just don't take much notice, but for this sort of performance, it's really hard to draw a distinction.
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
Nice observations Unefille.
'There is nothing in her eyes, nothing in her expression; the whole thing is PAINFULLY mechanical. No joy, no playfulness, no eye-fucking. I'm more inclined to think she's logical than ethical actually.'
This might indicate ISTP? Cause that's the only other type that I can VI in her.
/nods
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I wonder how many people use this kind of criteria for VI.
My thoughts exactly, especially about the pants.
Fun Fact: Audrey Hepburn is Fe-ISFp. This girl has a poster of her on her wall. Watch the video with that in mind, comparing her to the poster on the wall right behind her. They VI very similarly, IMO.
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
These were not my first criteria, she VI as an ESFP that I know. Though when I looked at the criteria as described in socionics descriptions, she also fits those.
But then again, I can see an ISTP in her too. So I guess I'll have to rely a whole lot less on VI in this case.
yeah, i noticed that as well, hepburn behind her i mean.
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