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    Hello. Is it common for OR is it a (typical) TRAIT of ENTP's to neglect their own possibilities and qualities of growth and further experience, because of childish stubborness and know-it-all-ness + a lot of P-ness and lack of determination?

    If so, I'm telling you : This is not only frustrating you somewhere deep inside (*itching*) [I hope it does!!! ] , but also the ones who love you and want the best for you.

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    Welcome to an ENTp world, take it or leave it, love us or hate us, pepsi or coca cola
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    So , IS it common ? Is this a typical trait ?
    *tell me I'm right*

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    What is Real, Neo?
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    Wuuuut?

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    You forgot to say ENTps are weird
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    Yeah. Does that matter right now?

    Are you ENTP? What are you?

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    No
    Yes
    A human
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    Awesome, Okay. Hi ENTP. Nice to meet you. * Shakes hand *
    Are you going to attack me with pranks + naggings about how other people suck and how your point of view rocks?

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    Shakes hand
    Smiles
    Answers: chill, did you expect less from an ENTp?
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    Guess not!
    The thing I wonder about though, is, are you also like uhm.. mature? Sorry if this offended you.. enough to be able to put all of that *Don't talk all serious to me, I won't change my opinion, this is me and I want to be free (happy dance)* facade beside you for a sec and just listen and think about your own actions and actions of others and try to understand and relativate stuff and all of that 'crap' that is yet o so useful sometimes? You know, being reflective and all? Trying to see things from different perspectives? etc

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    I understand what you're saying. I know other ENTps and they really lack , or whatever and yes, they behave in a bitchy pig-headed way, but I promise u there are good guys behind it.
    On the other hand, I'm lucky to live in a Fe'ish area, which helped me to develop empathy
    Are you a human too?
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    I'm human, Woot! Didn't expect that eh?
    I know, very good fellow underneath indeed, it's just so hard to deal with this stubborness sometimes, it rests on my shoulders like some unsolved frictatious puzzle , and I want to solve it together with that ENTP and I can't find how.
    Every time I turn to a more serious conversation about *certain* things, which I simply take as random thoughts since I practically deal with almost all matters like that, the ENTP thinks I want to offend or attack him or something, which is not what I intend to do at all... And then the allergic reaction comes : " Could you please not talk about this , or not talk about that subject in that kind of (...) way ? "
    It's as if he's saying " It won't matter, I won't be able to put up with it anyways " Which is almost sad! I mean, Why? I'm basically only trying to get things going for the person in a better way.
    It can work, but step by step, and rly slow, doesn't it....
    Lol, the person says I seem to be so serious about things sometimes, which is ironic, because yes, I take things seriously and try to be practical about stuff and all, but on the other hand I deal with them in an almost fun way (to me) .

    -> Never mind this, I shouldn't want to change somebody and should stop my persuasive ideas of trying to help.
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    Perhaps we're not talking about ENTps here. IMO, everybody has some narrow-minded periods in his life, but we ENTps boast our view of things, which makes us appear more aggressive or stubborn than the "average citizen"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    Why should ENTps do all of the changing to accommodate you, Skyline?
    To prove ourselvers we're very flexible
    To lose some weight
    To suffer and conquer
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    Carla, I feel as if you're rly right somewhere, I guess I've been discussing values with somebody who has other values, and my Fi wouldn't let go of it.
    By the way, I was not saying ENTP's should adapt themselves to me, Lol, I'm no Bitchy Queen, I was talking about one specific person in a very particular and personal situation.

    Thanks for the replies , ENTP human dude =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carla View Post
    Are you an INFj?

    Nope
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    Heh, thanks. Just came to vent here a bit about some annoying situation I wasn't able to figure out without some forum-help .
    Yay.
    Lol,
    other than that I'm pretty much out for more random stuff around here.

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    In other words, you wanna escalate the conflict in order to feed your hunger-for-kamikaze-actions
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    Mhh, are you doing psychic stuff on me?

    - Basically, in my own words , I 'd like to finish my former discussion and get on with new stuff

    Is that the same?

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    OK
    Are you a Canadian?
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    Nein!
    Nor a German.

    Por que? Random question? Do I send off Canadian vibes? Bzzz

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    Oh Canada our home and native land
    true patiot love in all thy sons command...
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    I see you're into culture ma friend!

    What would you say would be the 3 best things about being an ENTP?

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    r u an INFj?
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    NO

    Do I seem like one?

    Perhaps staying up til late mutates me

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    I can smell INFj's a thousand miles away
    sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff
    SNIFF SNIFFF SNI FF SNIFF

    Oh no! It's coming!!!!!!!
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    butbut.. I'm nooooooooooot =)

    I'm going to get off now, Toodles , see you in space (or something) !
    ... I usually don't say that kind of stuff..

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    ...and gentlemen and ladies, this was an example of conflict escalation
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    What?Where?Why? How?

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    Look in your heart, Obi Wan
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    Jeez, you're so confronting.
    Guess my real type : )

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    ESTj???
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    NoOoOoOOooOoo!
    Def. not
    C'mon!

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    ESFj???
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    no :/ : )

    hey, isn't it obvious I'm P now, I said I was gonna go and I'm still here .

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    ENFp N subtype
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    no,no,no...

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    ESTp S subtype
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    still no.


    Hint : I probably seem more E right now than I really am , some people tend to describe me as social @ certain occasions but I'm actually a pretty private person indeed.

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