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    Default I love ESFps!

    I just had coffee with an SEE friend of mine. She's so great. She initiates our get-togethers and then talks my ear off and I totally love it. She's wacky, funny and energetic. She even invited me to go walking with her and another woman which is exactly what I need. SEEs are the best. And way easier to make a connection with initially than SLEs. Plus I think I like female SEEs better than female SLEs. Female SLEs I find intimidating.
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    SEEs can be pretty amazing.
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    I think they are great too!
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    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    WE ARE MADE OF WIN!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    WE ARE MADE OF WIN!!!
    hee hee I find you so cute!
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    Default Have to love ESFps!

    So yesterday I ran out of gas. I knew it was going to happen but my husband was like "oh there's plenty of gas" blah blah. Anyway, I was only four blocks from my house, which was good. I walked home and called my neighbor who is an SEE. She was like okay I'm going to drop off my kid at the playdate and then I'm taking our gas container to the gas station and I'll come back for you in about 15 minutes and we'll go get your car.

    wham bam, just like that! she basically fixed my problem for me! Then she was helping me think about how I need to work out more and said she'll come up with a plan for me (she's a personal trainer). how cool is that? Gotta love SEEs!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Yeah, I like being around people like that. I get complaints that I rush too much, but for me it's just annoying being around people who like to idle. I love SEEs.
    yeah they can just make it happen. and there I was, grinning like an idiot, thanking her profusely.
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    I want to be ILI. People greatly underestimate the power of the Mirage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I want to be ILI. People greatly underestimate the power of the Mirage.
    lol I have an ILI friend who's married to an SEE. He adores her. And so do I. She's great. I think, though, that I like the female SEEs better than the males for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I think male SEEs are hilarious.
    they are but.... I don't trust them somehow. hmmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I think male SEEs are hilarious.
    Yes and I love them. Oh my gosh I love them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Really? I find them very trustworthy. The ones I've met seem like people would never betray you. And once you get to know them, they're very open. I dunno, they're probably one of my favorite types.
    I agree. Their love of the opposite sex and outgoingness is the only thing that would probobly make me a little uneasy if it were a romantic relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    I think male SEEs are hilarious.
    Haha, yes. I love SEEs (I feel like I'm talking about candy), they're one of my favorite types - somehow they just make me feel very comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I agree. Their love of the opposite sex and outgoingness is the only thing that would probobly make me a little uneasy if it were a romantic relationship.
    I went out with one for over a year and a half and didn't have any problems of that sort. I don't know... they may notice/talk a lot, but their actions are pretty direct and they seem to have the big picture in mind when it comes to romantic entanglements (in my experience at least).
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    okay, well I've never dated one so I'll defer to those of you who have!

    @ dolphin, I'm not sure what subtype she is, I'll have to think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calenwen View Post
    I went out with one for over a year and a half and didn't have any problems of that sort. I don't know... they may notice/talk a lot, but their actions are pretty direct and they seem to have the big picture in mind when it comes to romantic entanglements (in my experience at least).
    Yeah, I also dated one and that's basically how it went (is there any type i haven't dated at this point? i mean really..). It really wasn't his problem but more mine in dealing with those two factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Y (is there any type i haven't dated at this point? i mean really..). .
    LOL, I feel the same way. I think this may deserve a new thread!

    And with SEEs, I've known two guys. One was extremely trustworthy and loyal. The other was manipulative and sneaky (like a used car salesman). It really depends on the person and their ethics/values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewels View Post
    LOL, I feel the same way. I think this may deserve a new thread!
    The sad thing with that is that IEE wouldn't be on that list.

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    im still SEE right?!





    i wants this love and respect, i want some of these props being thrown about! yo....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    lol I have an ILI friend who's married to an SEE. He adores her. And so do I. She's great. I think, though, that I like the female SEEs better than the males for some reason.
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    they are but.... I don't trust them somehow. hmmmm.
    yea. female SEEs seem to be.. nicer. hmm.
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    yeah i know they're great, i'm very glad that i get to fuck them

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    SEE's are great friends and horrible enemies. Especially is you don't value Se.

    A month ago I loved SEE's. Now, Im not a fan.

    They are short term thinkers, easily guilted, flippant, abrasive, arbitrary about relationships, and really good at faking intimacy.

    =( I make Fi polr fails.
    The end is nigh

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    Indeed, sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    SEE's are great friends and horrible enemies. Especially is you don't value Se.

    A month ago I loved SEE's. Now, Im not a fan.

    They are short term thinkers, easily guilted, flippant, abrasive, arbitrary about relationships, and really good at faking intimacy.

    =( I make Fi polr fails.
    easily guilted??? EASILY GUILTED?!?!?!


    grrrrr......




    I was with an ILE for 2 years who was the master at guilting me. bullshit.

    the rest i can understand. except arbitrary about relationships and faking intimacy. i cant do that, especially the second part. i thrive too much on actual intimacy. if its fake, im not interested and cant force it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    easily guilted??? EASILY GUILTED?!?!?!


    grrrrr......




    I was with an ILE for 2 years who was the master at guilting me. bullshit.

    the rest i can understand. except arbitrary about relationships and faking intimacy. i cant do that, especially the second part. i thrive too much on actual intimacy. if its fake, im not interested and cant force it.

    Unfortunately for me, my experiences have shown otherwise.

    We're not guilt-trippy. Just no one wuvs us.
    The end is nigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Unfortunately for me, my experiences have shown otherwise.

    We're not guilt-trippy. Just no one wuvs us.
    god who the hell uses the word wuv.

    i found this really old email from this emo girl, when she was like 14 and writing me long emails that used to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    You don't wuv it?
    wuv is a four letter word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Except it's not even a word.
    who needs words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    who needs words.
    very good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    very good point.
    who needs points?

    20 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Who needs SLEs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Who needs SLEs?
    crack fiends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Yes, I think you are.

    Most of my best friends have been SEEs and I love them. I also seem to date them often too, but I just can't seem to be in relationships with them for a lot of the reasons already listed here. They move way too fast.


    lol...too fast eh? yeah, thats because we know what we want nearly right away.

    this happens in every relationship i go into pretty much. it's started to get a little stranger as ive gotten older and experienced fails a few times. its not as easy to rush in as it used to be...im too cautious...but i guess thats a good thing? id rather just rush in without any walls around me and just let everything be embraced and what not. but that just plain isn't safe....IT IS NOT A PERFECT WORLD AND JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE UBER LOYAL TO THEM DOESNT MEAN THEY GRASP THE SAME FEELINGS YOU ARE CAPABLE OF!


    i need to avoid relationship conversations around this forum.





    and about the guilting and ILE's....saying that we dont love you IS guilting us. ugh he used to do that too -_- after EVERYTHING ive done for him, do for him, etc etc...after all the effort ive put into trying to make him feel better......given its not exactly how he WANTED me to make him feel better but what he thought he wanted (larger amounts of lovey talk, physical affection and me acting all cute and emotionally lively) isn't what he really needed.....and i knew this.....he was just depressed about other things and that kind of problem cant be fixed with a distraction. but noooooo, my helping him means I DONT LOVE HIM HIM ANYMORE.

    HAH i didnt even make it to the end of the damn post without talking about relationships again. damn.
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    ENTps just want to be coddled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    easily guilted??? EASILY GUILTED?!?!?!


    grrrrr......




    I was with an ILE for 2 years who was the master at guilting me. bullshit.

    the rest i can understand. except arbitrary about relationships and faking intimacy. i cant do that, especially the second part. i thrive too much on actual intimacy. if its fake, im not interested and cant force it.
    Usually Fe types will think Fi types are fake, and Fi types will think Fe types are fake. Thinking about that, I actually do act fake towards Fe types in the sense that I 'fake possessing any shred of Fe' so that I won't completely piss them off. It's like I think to myself, in response to some Fe crap by them.. 'what the hell do you want? uhh.... thank you.' But it's not what I consider fake, because I don't value Fe. If someone did that to me It would seem relieving. So I will insist I am not fake, and they will insist I am, and I will insist they are fake.. and they will insist they aren't. It's weird. words.. they're tricky. But anyway, fakeness is strange and I bet you guys do seem fake to Fe dominant types. The same thing works for all those other words you used like intimacy, forcing something, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    lol...too fast eh? yeah, thats because we know what we want nearly right away.

    this happens in every relationship i go into pretty much. it's started to get a little stranger as ive gotten older and experienced fails a few times. its not as easy to rush in as it used to be...im too cautious...but i guess thats a good thing? id rather just rush in without any walls around me and just let everything be embraced and what not. but that just plain isn't safe....IT IS NOT A PERFECT WORLD AND JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE UBER LOYAL TO THEM DOESNT MEAN THEY GRASP THE SAME FEELINGS YOU ARE CAPABLE OF!


    i need to avoid relationship conversations around this forum.





    and about the guilting and ILE's....saying that we dont love you IS guilting us. ugh he used to do that too -_- after EVERYTHING ive done for him, do for him, etc etc...after all the effort ive put into trying to make him feel better......given its not exactly how he WANTED me to make him feel better but what he thought he wanted (larger amounts of lovey talk, physical affection and me acting all cute and emotionally lively) isn't what he really needed.....and i knew this.....he was just depressed about other things and that kind of problem cant be fixed with a distraction. but noooooo, my helping him means I DONT LOVE HIM HIM ANYMORE.

    HAH i didnt even make it to the end of the damn post without talking about relationships again. damn.

    Awww mannnn. You sound just like my SEE friend.

    Uhg, I hate Fi.

    Its not like I knew what I was doin. Now I understand how I was trying to make her an ISFp.
    The end is nigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Awww mannnn. You sound just like my SEE friend.

    Uhg, I hate Fi.

    Its not like I knew what I was doin. Now I understand how I was trying to make her an ISFp.
    I'm sure I was trying to make that ILE into someone from my own quadra too....I wasnt trying to make you feel bad....just sayin.....I have experience with that super ego relation and it sounds similar to yours.



    and ew, coddled....i dont do that except maybe in moments of extreme privacy and emotionality.
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    my esfp sister is now in a relationship with an entp, and although i have the divine understanding that her relationship is certainly doomed and she will end up starving herself worse than she already does, alas i cannot intervene. i will just have to sit back and watch as this pussy attention starved entp guilt trips her into a worthless crying puddle of shame and pity who barfs up her feelings ... oh well

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