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Idk ... I think this describes a Fe approach to performance. How he says that there should be nothing artificial about your performance ... should fly straight from your heart ... should be like you're improvising.
I've always thought that Lang Lang was EIE E3, from what I've read of him.
To him as a person - somewhat, yes. I relate to the compulsive need to write yourself. He also comes across as somewhat demanding in his interaction with students he's done master-classes with -- his interaction there (reading about it), I recognise as well. He also has a certain...nonchalance? ambivalence? (I can't find the word I'm looking for) I relate to. Some musicians make it seem as though music is the only thing they can imagine themselves doing; the only thing they have a passion for; their only avenue and that they're so lucky to be doing something they love. I don't get that feeling from him. Instead he seems to have an attitude I relate to almost too much -- it's not that he doesn't love music and piano, but that his interests are not so limited and it's just music that he happened to end up pursuing, through various circumstances, and since he's in that situation, he might as well as do it as well as possible, to the best of his ability and bring everything to the endeavour.Originally Posted by Lang Lang
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lol, when I watched the video I was really compelled. I couldn't post until I had seen the entire video. I absolutely love how this guy expresses his thoughts and inner feelings with music - how his mind just turns into notes and melody. Lovely. And the choppy forceful style is indeed Se valuing. But his face is extremely expressionate IMO, so I don't think he's ISTj. For some reason I didn't even consider ESTp and INFp. He's somehow too direct for that. I had never heard of him before. Just after the first video, I would type him as EIE.
so everytime I throw my arm in the air I'm an Se type, and when I'm making funny faces I'm an Fe type?
aha I get it.
According to Augusta you only show your ego functions to the outside world.
If this is for example an FeSi type, he throws his arms in the air in an Fe/Si manner.
Labeling every different word or movement a person makes with another function, sounds to me the same as:
When you have a fight in your relationship, calling the relationship a conflict relation and when you kiss and make up, say that you are in a dual relation.
correct me if I'm wrong or have misread anything.
I think it is incorrect to say that those functions that appear in the Ego are the only ones that are shown to the outside world.Ego
Enjoyable to experience (fun to be in this environment)
Easy to use (doesn't require much conscious effort or "willpower" to focus on)
Prone to burnout (gets stuck in a rut and become overworked)
Normal state of mind (what a person is usually like when interacting with others)
Very high endurance (functions can easily effectively be used for hours at a time)
High initiative (person foresees problems in these areas and manages them in advance)
High tolerance (can handle being exposed to these types of information for a long period of time)
Likes to talk (about things from the perspective of these kinds of information)
Thinks openly (involves other people in thinking/experiencing process)
Likes to do (turns talk into action)
Likes to lead (sets the tone in these areas for others)
Doesn't like to follow (others' initiative without adding new initiatives of one's own)
A strain to experience
Hard to use
Tense state of mind
Doesn't like to talk
Thinks to oneself
Doesn't like to lead
Doesn't like to follow
Enjoyable to experience
Medium-hard to use
Prone to neglect
Regenerative state of mind
Likes to talk
Likes for others to do
Doesn't like to lead
Likes to follow
A minor strain to experience
Fairly easy to use
Unusual ('weird') state of mind
Doesn't like to talk
Likes to do briefly
Likes to lead briefly
Likes to follow briefly
The other blocks can visibly be shown (albeit in different aspects) to the outside world.
My interpretation of the first video was, as I said before, a playful expression of like sentiments. I think Kristiina put it much better that lines up with what I feel about that, that it displays (in part) a valuing of . Is that the only element shown in that video? Of course not.
I think the 3rd video in particular demonstrates clearly (and does to a degree in the other 2 videos) an ability to channel the energy and emotion of the music through his physical body. Now, if his motivation to do this is to draw a reaction from others, or if he is doing this to "match" the emotional content of the music he feels or if it is something else makes a difference from an information element standpoint.
I think there's a clue in this from the 2nd video. When he talks about how performances should be expressed. I sensed in this, but I think there are aspects of in it as well as I thought about it some more. The composition itself is inciting this raw, unfiltered emotion from him. He is allowing himself to be carried by the very music he is performing.
I think it's this aspect of raw, intense emotional movement points more towards Beta rather than Alpha in my opinion.
this is awesome (c:
Yeah - I think that being confident enough to represent your emotions without feeling you have to filter them points to pretty strong Fe.I think there's a clue in this from the 2nd video. When he talks about how performances should be expressed. I sensed in this, but I think there are aspects of in it as well as I thought about it some more. The composition itself is inciting this raw, unfiltered emotion from him. He is allowing himself to be carried by the very music he is performing.Yeah - I think Alpha Fe would more likely be interested in creating a character or something with their music. I think it would look less like riding an emotional wave (letting the music determine their emotions), and more like playing a character ... and letting the character express the emotions. So it goes through a creative filter first. Uh ... second thoughts ... maybe I'm talking about Fe as a secondary function as opposed to base. Idk.I think it's this aspect of raw, intense emotional movement points more towards Beta rather than Alpha in my opinion.
hmm I'm confused, I thought Fe blocked with Si was more likely to manifest in a heart on sleeve, expressing emotions in the moment kind of way ... whereas Fe blocked with Ni manifests in a more crafted expression of emotion... or emotion withheld until the right time
I think this guy might be Fe creative (the violinist).
That's more my style anyway. You can tell the emotion's genuine ... that the music is running through him ... but his focus seems to be on creating a mood or painting a picture rather than expressing himself. As the audience, you feel like you're watching someone playing for their own entertainment rather than actively trying to entertain you. That's the difference I see btwn Fe-creative and Fe-dominant performers.
You get what I'm driving at though, right (with Liberace)?