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    Talking Alpha Fictional Characters in Movies and Literature

    I'm getting kind of tired of all the aggresive Se/Ni romances I'm seeing lately in TV/Film. What are some Alpha, or even just general Ne/Si romances out there right now?

    What I can think of:
    Jim/Pam on the Office
    A lot of the couples in french New Wave films from the 60s
    Peter/Joanna on office space
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    mebe ...

    Amelie
    Before Sunrise
    Good Will Hunting
    Garden State
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Elizabethtown
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    Wedding Daze

    The Last Kiss

    (former one is more Alpha)



    ps. And Bridget Jones of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Wedding Daze

    The Last Kiss

    (former one is more Alpha)



    ps. And Bridget Jones of course.
    why Bridget Jones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    why Bridget Jones?
    Because it's Ne/Si, it has romance and it's a great movie. Bridget and Mark are IEE and SLI respectively.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    A very nice and laid back (for some potentially boring) Si/Ne film I recently saw is My Blueberry Nights. It doesn't have a lot of romance in it but it has Norah Jones and Jude Law in the main roles.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Because it's Ne/Si, it has romance and it's a great movie. Bridget and Mark are IEE and SLI respectively.
    oh, Ne/Si - right ... I forgot about Delta for a sec :-p
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    A very nice and laid back Si/Ne film I recently saw is My Blueberry Nights. It doesn't have a lot of romance in it but it has Norah Jones and Jude Law in the main roles.
    yeah - that movie was rather nice - do you think Norah played an SLI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    mebe ...

    Amelie

    Before Sunrise
    Good Will Hunting
    Garden State
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Elizabethtown
    <3 <3 <3

    I love those!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    oh, Ne/Si - right ... I forgot about Delta for a sec :-p
    How inconsiderate of you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    yeah - that movie was rather nice - do you think Norah played an SLI?
    Perhaps.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    mebe ...

    Amelie
    Before Sunrise
    Good Will Hunting
    Garden State
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Elizabethtown
    Seen most of those, Amelie is one of my favorites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    A very nice and laid back (for some potentially boring) Si/Ne film I recently saw is My Blueberry Nights. It doesn't have a lot of romance in it but it has Norah Jones and Jude Law in the main roles.
    Blueberry nights was great, good call.

    Can anyone think of some TV series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diljs View Post

    Can anyone think of some TV series?
    Turk and Carla on scrubs?

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    It's a Wonderful Life has always always been my ESE husband's favorite movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Turk and Carla on scrubs?
    Yeah, ESFj (Turk) and ENTp (Carla) seems right for them. But does anyone else think Scrubs as a whole seems more Delta? IDK if that's all that valid, but it just seems that way to me. And I mean Delta Fi. Gross.

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    Talking Alpha characters in fiction

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    milla jovovich gives me unpure thoughts

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    ???

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    Xev is prob not on second thought... seems more and

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    ehhh idk... on third thought maybe she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    I am quite literally the IRL embodiment of Chiana. Oh and megalol at "impure thoughts"


    Still no love Goat
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    Lyekka also from Lexx


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    maybe?

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    Frank and Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia

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    SCOOBY SNACKS!!!!!
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    There are lots of fictional ENTp-ISFp couples

    Friends: Ross Geller (ENTp) & Rachel Green (ISFp)



    Dragon Ball: Bulma's parents

    ENTp
    ISFp

    Back to the Future: Doc Brown % Clara



    JD & Elliot Reid (scrubs)





    Frasier and Niles Crane (no idea about the dog's type)



    Giles and Buffy the Vampire Slayer

    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Shandala from Broken Saints

    This is a sample of what I'm talking about (From the beginning to 4:23. It is of the first chapter of the series)



    Also:

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    Default Alphas in Fiction

    This is an updated thread for typing Alpha characters in literature, movies, and television series.

    To provide a working list and starting point:

    ILE

    Literature

    • Frankenstein: Dr. Victor Frankenstein
    • Don Quixote: Don Quixote
    • Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Arthur Dent

    Films

    • Fight Club: "Jack/Cornelius"
    • Jurassic Park: Ian Malcom
    • Pirates of the Caribbean: Captain Jack Sparrow
    • Thank You For Smoking: Nick Naylor (SLE?)
    • Young Frankenstein: Frederick Frankenstein

    Television

    • Battlestar Galactica: Gaius Baltar
    • Farscape: John Crichton
    • Fawlty Towers: Basil Fawlty
    • The Office (UK/US): Tim/Jim
    • Primeval: Connor Temple
    • Spaced (British comedy): Tim Bisley
    • Stargate Atlantis: Rodney McKay
    • Weeds: Doug Wilson

    Cartoons & Comics

    • Family Guy: Peter Griffin
    • Freakazoid: Dexter Douglas/Freakazoid
    • Futurama: Prof. Hubert Farnsworth
    • Transformers: Wheeljack


    SEI

    Literature

    Films

    • Amélie: Amélie
    • The Big Lebowski: Jeffrey "the Dude" Lebowski (SLI?)
    • Young Frankenstein: Inga
    • Wall-E: Wall-E

    Television

    • Babylon 5: Emperor Cartagia
    • Battlestar Galactica: Cally Tyrol
    • Fawlty Towers: Polly Sherman
    • The Office (UK/US): Dawn/Pam
    • Primeval: Abby Maitland
    • Spaced (British comedy): Daisy Steiner
    • Weeds: Andy Botwin

    Cartoons & Comics

    • Aladdin: The Sultan
    • Futurama: Philip Fry


    ESE

    Literature

    Films

    • Garden State: Sam
    • Pride & Prejudice (2005): Elizabeth Bennett
    • The Producers: Ulla

    Television

    • The Cosby Show: Heathcliff Huxtable
    • Fawlty Towers: Sybil Fawlty
    • Firefly: Kaylee Frye
    • Fraiser: Daphne Moon
    • Heroes: Claire Bennet
    • The Office: Kelly Kapoor
    • Scrubs: Dr. Christopher Turk

    Cartoons & Comics

    • Aladdin: Genie
    • Family Guy: Lois Griffin
    • Transformers: Bumblebee


    LII

    Literature

    • Dune: Paul "Muad'dib" Atreides
    • Ender's Game: Ender Wiggin
    • Horatio Hornblower: Horatio Hornblower (and A&E Mini-Series)

    Films

    • The Breakfast Club: Brian "the Brain"
    • Garden State: Andrew Largeman
    • Pride & Prejudice (2005): Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy
    • The Producers: Leo Bloom

    Television

    • Firefly: Simon Tam
    • Battlestar Galactica: Felix Gaeta
    • Heroes: Gabriel Gray/Sylar
    • Stargate Atlantis: Radek Zelenka
    • Weeds: Dean Hodes

    Cartoons & Comics

    • Transformers: Prowl
    • Watchmen: Jon Osterman/Dr. Manhattan
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    Technically not fiction, but there's a good a representation of Robespierre as a LII in movie Danton (1983)

    Another LII, Bruce Banner at least in the Hulk movie. Hulk might be considered as his primitive Se + Fi shadow.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    This is so random, but...

    The Ellimist from the animorph series - Ti ENTp
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    Don't forget WALL-E!!
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    With Simon Tam in there from Firefly, would it be correct to put kaylie (sp?) in as an ESE. I could definitely see that but we all know my socionics knowledge = shite.

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    I read Logo's case for Kaylie as ESE over at the socionics workshop and agreed with it.
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    Niffweed's belief that Kaylee is SEI is what is keeping me from putting her down as either. She is still an Alpha SF, but we have disagreements about which she is.

    I honestly would probably prefer to locate more SEIs and ESEs, since there is a noticeable lack of them on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Niffweed's belief that Kaylee is SEI is what is keeping me from putting her down as either. She is still an Alpha SF, but we have disagreements about which she is.

    I honestly would probably prefer to locate more SEIs and ESEs, since there is a noticeable lack of them on the list.
    SEI Characters.

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    IMO Aladdin's Genie as ESFj is very dubious. He isn't in any way a socially harmonious kind of character, more like annoying, awkward and over the top. He's definitely Alpha and extrovert but ENTp rather than ESFj. Compare him to Star Trek's Q, who is consistently typed ENTp and very similar in behavior to the genie.

    I do support the typing of Kaylee as ESFj and see absolutely no reason to doubt it's validity. She's just about the most obvious ESFj in pop culture that I could name.

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    The best ISFp ENTp couple ever



    I know you have them up there, but... oh well.
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    My input in response to previous suggestions:

    Rachel Green: a cookie-cutter ESFj
    Clara: I very much doubt ISFp. More likely an Fi type such as INFj.
    JD: INFp
    Elliot: another textbook example of ESFj
    Buffy and Giles: quite sure they're not ISFp, but I don't know enough to offer alternative typings

    The rest are pretty good in my book.

    Here's my suggestion:

    Harry Potter's Hagrid


    Characters that are likely ISFp if Hagrid is:
    LOTR's Bilbo Baggins (film version)
    LOTR's Gimli (film version)

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