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    Someone I met at dinner recently

    concerning his work:
    - he likes to fix problems..ie in the cement factory if there's a problem in the factory (after having a complete understanding of the system)
    - likes to have a job description and a proper job outline, but without it, has to force self-direction to go learn about things on his own. dislikes that he doesn't have a clearly defined position in the structure - rather ambigious
    - he also likes to be involved in research activities - because no one knows what the answer is, and you have to figure it out.
    -wanted to be in his exact field from grade school - ie, grade school dream, ( wanted to enjoy it?)

    strong valued Ti and weak unvalued te?

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    beta ST, prolly ISTj -- tentative

    edit: beta without a doubt IMO

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    why the beta? as in so that IS strong Ti, weak ti eh?

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    mmm - okay let me try to think of ways to differentiate between istj and estp. hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali View Post
    why the beta? as in so that IS strong Ti, weak ti eh?
    because of the focus on structure, specialization, etc. - "wanting to know his position within the hierarchy" -- SeTi stuff, generally.

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    yep , got it thanks

    okay. question people. how do you determine the difference between ISTJ and ESTP. Assuming it's not possible to visually observe them at close distance. What sort of differences or subtelties should be picked out/noticed/attitude ?

    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali View Post
    yep , got it thanks

    okay. question people. how do you determine the difference between ISTJ and ESTP. Assuming it's not possible to visually observe them at close distance. What sort of differences or subtelties should be picked out/noticed/attitude ?

    thanks!
    They will both have a very direct attitude towards goals and whatnot, but ISTj's will tend to be the more structured, controlled ones. Both types will focus on the hierarchy, but ISTj's are more like the operators of it, while ESTp's tend to be the appliers, in way. A matter of being up front vs. behind the scenes. And ESTp's are lot more flexible and adaptable - especially with their utilization of Ti.

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    yep , got it thanks

    okay. question people. how do you determine the difference between ISTJ and ESTP. Assuming it's not possible to visually observe them at close distance. What sort of differences or subtelties should be picked out/noticed/attitude ?

    thanks!

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    lol double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali View Post
    Someone I met at dinner recently

    concerning his work:
    - he likes to fix problems..ie in the cement factory if there's a problem in the factory (after having a complete understanding of the system)
    - likes to have a job description and a proper job outline, but without it, has to force self-direction to go learn about things on his own. dislikes that he doesn't have a clearly defined position in the structure - rather ambigious
    - he also likes to be involved in research activities - because no one knows what the answer is, and you have to figure it out.
    -wanted to be in his exact field from grade school - ie, grade school dream, ( wanted to enjoy it?)
    I'd definitely say Ti valuing. It's probably strong.

    strong valued Ti and weak unvalued te?
    lol @ Allie

    That is a contradiction. You can't have strong Ti and weak Te.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    lol @ Allie

    That is a contradiction. You can't have strong Ti and weak Te.
    why lol @ allie lol?

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