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    I would define my primary mode of thinking as conceptual and graphical.

    To explain what conceptual means to me, I must first explain the difference between data and information.

    Data is simply a record of some event, like the color of an object. The bigger the database is, the more detailed your perception of the world becomes. But even if you were able to register huge amounts of data, you would never be able to cover all possibilities. For example, you might know how a cat is, but only the cat you've observed. Other cats, you might have no clue about how they are.

    Information, on the other hand, is the interpretation of the data through the means of logic. This, in roughly terms, will allow you to see a picture of a cat and determine some major features that every cat must have: like triangular ears, cleft lip, etc. and use this information to make a mental picture that, while not identical to any existing cat, will possess characteristics shared by every cat.

    So I'm always "distilling" data to form information. I have an inherent ability to see the essence about anything, to build principles and to find connections. My perception is thus filtered well before it even enters the conscious arena.

    This, combined with my preference of graphical thinking, gives me the ability to visualize any object that composes the universe and see easily the relationship between such objects at different scales.

    One curious thing is that, in order to solve a problem, I must first visualize it. The solutions come to me by observing the situation in my mind. Often however, and related to my inability to handle data, the situation that I visualize in my mind will be different from the real one and thus the solutions might not be as effective.
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    I see it as, simply, the world working in a way that makes sense. 'Makes sense' in the sense of results, more than how it fits a pre-conceived notion, ideology, etc. For instance, in my approach to socionics. My focus on model A socionics is due to my judgment that it works - it works in analyzing, and even predicting, interpersonal relationships. If I did not see it working, in myself and among the people I see around me, I would have no interest in it whatsoever, regardless of how interesting the endless descriptions and theoretical models might be to others.
    Since the 'things are working well' is not a given - they can stop working, or work less well, at any time - that requires constant follow-up and constant update. Two perfect applications of that are science (or engineering in particular) and business. The world we live in - above all the modern western world - is a world ruled by Te. Engineering and science are pitiless: they don't give a damn about your emotions, your preferences, your speculations, your desires: nuclear weapons that work wield the ultimate power of maybe splitting the Earth in two. If one of them doesn't work, it's totally useless, no matter how much thought or care or devotion was put into building it. The same goes for business, or ways to govern a country: you may well have a perfect model, and ideology, that makes sense internally, that assures huge economic growth with low unemployment and inflation. If it doesn't work, it is pointless to say 'no but it should work! It must work! Let's try again' or the like, if you are not willing to adapt it to the point it does work - even if you don't quite understand why it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    The world we live in - above all the modern western world - is a world ruled by Te.
    At the superficial level, this is true. But on a more deeper level, Te, like any other function, only serves to get you as much chow and pussy as possible
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    The moment when you are able to begin to conceive that not everyone shares your motivations, CA, is the moment when you will have made a huge step in understanding others - in a socionics context or otherwise. Until then, keep projecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    The moment when you are able to begin to conceive that not everyone shares your motivations, CA, is the moment when you will have made a huge step in understanding others - in a socionics context or otherwise. Until then, keep projecting.
    I think you're taking what he said the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    I think you're taking what he said the wrong way.
    Well, if he didn't mean it that way now, he has in the past, and/or will in the future. It's all right then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    i don't like how things are. they can be better, this world is too imperfect. why have we to wait hundred years to make a sensible change towards welfare and efficiency? i know there is always the "best way" of doing things, i'm aiming that, but usually end in finding a "better way" that can be again improved in the future. i see things nobody notice, but i don't notice some other things everybody sees. i don't believe in miracles, but i see them happening. actually coincidences, a miracle is in fact one of these with the condition to happen in your favor when you are in need.
    last coincidence happened to me yesterday: i had an item on sale over the internet for few months, nobody asked for it until yesterday two clients asked for that. i sold it to the first one. but i'm thinking if it wasn't better to sell it to the second one, not for the sake of money, but for what he could do with it. i though again and i sold to the second guy something i intended to keep for me, but he needed it very soon and i intend to relocate and get rid of the ballast. i got used to these "strange" coincidences a long time ago but still i'm looking for the rule, they must have a rule! maybe the I Ching has the answer, but maybe it is flawed. i can say that because i think Ba Gua is flawed, at least the naming.
    usually options come all at once, i hate this! it gives me a feeling of loss. if i could, i'd split my life course for every option. at least to "save" it and restore later, as i use to do in computer games, to try the other way even if i know it's not the best, but at some point even this way will branch and who knows?...
    i'm not a business man, i prefer creating music, film and automation. but if i have to do business i focus to anticipate the echo of my decisions in the future. our deeds have repercussions so we'd better try to keep a balance in the system, sometimes by sacrificing goods, goodwill or honor for the sake of the harmony. we just need a better understanding of the system, to find the missing puzzle pieces.
    i'm lazy. laziness is the temptation of every inventor, it whispers you that you could do the same thing with much less effort. then you begin to see levers and wheels in everything. sometimes numbers.
    this Extroverted Intuition, as you probably guessed already, is a double-edged blade. what would be life without the eventuality of discovery or progress? sometimes all possibilities are hidden from you by the same "rule" that reveals them again another time. some people call this stagnation, i call it suffering.
    The rule is politics, those psychic domains I told you about. (well, told the forum). People who have shared ideals care about each other. It's difficult to extend caring to people who you don't understand, because you don't know what they are capable of. People of similar beliefs feel similar threats toward those beliefs; this is what allows them to cooperate and to think along the same "wavelength".

    I see people always saying "this is who I am, this is what I think". It's like they are constantly begging -- everybody -- to be taken up into the loving care of some supreme organizer and put to work doing deeds that will be of ultimate benefit to others. The question is knowing how to make sense of what they are pleading, so that they can be put to the most optimal use possible. For this purpose, techniques of interpretation are necessary. The problem is the sheer scope of the organization which is in place already: good, evil, and neutrality all have their place. If deeds of terrible misfortune, malignance, and malice are necessary... then what does that mean? What does it mean to make sense of Arda Marred? The challenge is one of building a new world on top of -- not against -- the natural one, while not damning oneself in the process.
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