One-Word Descriptions of Duality
This thread is in response to a much earlier comment that Expat has brought up before when he said that ESI/LIE duality could be best described as appearing "robotic". This had me thinking as to how to reduce the appearance of certain dual relations to one word. So if you could only use one word to describe the various dual-relations, what would they be?
- ILE/SEI: ?
- LII/ESE: ?
- SLE/IEI: ?
- LSI/EIE: ?
- SEE/ILI: ?
- ESI/LIE: robotic
- IEE/SLI: ?
- EII/LSE: ?
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
That'd be a tough one. If not impossible. Even if we did it I don't think it would mean anything. I mean how much can you convey and cover with one word. One word is just taking it too far, imo.Originally Posted by Logos
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
IEE/SLI: counter-balancing
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Aren't most of them?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
ILI-SEE - hypocrites - used because i see this being thrown around as a trait of being strong in Fi.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Hmm. Yeah, I guess they all are in some way.
Hmm...
Maybe opportunistic?
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
Might be true for both types individually.
But when romantically in love, this is probably one of the most sincere relationships.
My single word for this relationship would be 'polite' or 'relaxed'.
But it's difficult to use one word...
Yes, but (from my perspective) not more than Gammas.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
EIE/LSI: goal-oriented?
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3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
Aren't we all . . .
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
That's debatable even on an individual basis, but I'm not sure everyone sees their duality as a vehicle for achievement? I meant 'deferment of present pleasures in order to derive pleasure from focus on mutually agreed upon and specifically defined goals to be realised in the future'.
I seem to remember having this discussion with you before...
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
I would never call ILE-SEI as goal-oriented in their relationship, so goal-oriented for something else works for me.
ILE-SEI: Fun or maybe Sweet.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
performative?
dramatic?
ambitious?
allez cuisine!
Playful is the word I was thinking.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yeah, I can definitely see ILE-SEI as 'Fun' and 'Playful'.
I like Performative and Ambitious.
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
Jinx!
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
Here is my non-PC version:
- ILE/SEI: crazy
- LII/ESE: quirky
- SLE/IEI: hell
- LSI/EIE: melodramatic
- SEE/ILI: delusional
- ESI/LIE: robotic
- IEE/SLI: adventurous
- EII/LSE: perfection
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
wow, this is "one word NEGATIVE descriptions of duality"
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
whoa, I was just thinking along similar lines. "achievers"
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
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agreed. Melodramatic is a word to describe unbalanced middle-aged women who wear extra bright colors and are always gossiping and matchmaking. The kind that laugh really loud and are really moody and annoying.Does not describe any of the duality relationships I have or that I've ever heard about from other EIEs.
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
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I can do that. I 've done that. But does that make me a Beta rational?
I seem to remember having this discussion with you before...
Bottom line:
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Close enough. Good job doing them all. I was actually hoping EII/LSE would get something-related, but that works.
IEI-SLE = rape
4w3-5w6-8w7
AHahahahahahahahaha
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
So, we agree that Jung is IEI. Good.
4w3-5w6-8w7
You mean not _all_ EIEs are like that???!!!!agreed. Melodramatic is a word to describe unbalanced middle-aged women who wear extra bright colors and are always gossiping and matchmaking. The kind that laugh really loud and are really moody and annoying.
Anyway, if it's not clear, this and my aforementioned post were written fairly sarcastically.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
I'm sure people can do that across the board. I meant: I ENJOY doing that. I would like to spend my whole LIFE doing that. Setting ambitious goals together and working toward them together in a driven way. I don't live for the present, or very much IN the present at all. It's not even all about achieving the goals, frankly: it is the PROCESS of setting them and going after them. Living life according to a mutually agreed upon PLAN to realise tangible, concrete goals as the primary modus operandi, not something you do sometimes, not something you do when you need to, not something you do to facilitate other aims (like 'living comfortably' or 'being financially secure'). Deferring the present and pursuing future goals as a WAY OF LIFE, as the end in and of itself. Always needing to have a 'vision', a grand 'endpoint' and also needing to be in pursuit of that grand 'endpoint'.
I wasn't implying that everyone else was lazy, unmotivated or without any self-discipline. Just that whilst you might defer things for something you value, the deferment of the present for the future is part of what I value.
3w4-1w2-5w4 sx/sp
what? why??
INTp
sx/sp
LII/ESE = WTF?
100% truth. LII/ESE and ILI/SEE are both WTF duals.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
I am pleased that I am not the only who is stumped by this duality. On Socionics WS, the word I used to describe it was "paradoxical", because I could not think of any possible way to describe how people would perceive such an odd relationship. It's a symmetrical duality that appears asymmetrical.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
The same might be said of IEE/SLI imo
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
I'm not trying to build up the LII/ESE duality, but I do not think appearance of asymmetry with the IEE/SLI is quite as extreme as it appears to be with the INTx/ESFx relations.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. You explain yourself very well. But if you were to ask me whether I relate or share your viewpoint/values or if I could partake in such a relationship, I wouldn't have the slightest fucking clue or idea how to answer. Because I don't know. I really don't.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I agree with that. I think that what makes the INTx/ESFx the most obviously asymmetrical in appearance is that it's almost impossible to find an "introverted" ESE (although it is more possible to find "extroverted" LIIs); just like it is almost impossible to find "extroverted" ILIs (although it is more possible to find "introverted" SEEs).
IEEs and SLIs are less clear-cut. Some IEEs can make an appearance of "introversion", at least a lot of the time (Rick is a good example), while others are more obviously "extroverted" (JuJu if he is indeed one, and Slacker Mom by her own account, and Kim), while SLIs can appear sometimes more "extroverted" at least in joking around and the like.
nooo its highly biased O_o annoyingly so because its a waste of time without being amusingClose enough. Good job doing them all. I was actually hoping EII/LSE would get something
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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Ahh, good points. This makes sense to me.
INFj
9w1 sp/sx
I think that's one of the first times I actually added anything actually related to socionics here...
SLE&IEI=Rush.
As in whoa what a rush!
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