Christy B

[strrrng]

There are two options: IEI or EII.

I have spoken with her more recently about various things, her type included, and while I felt certain of EII before, I am currently considering IEI, due to some of her descriptions of what she does/doesn't seek from others. Previously, she seemed to utilize Ne frequently, and value Te, but I couldn't make an argument for either; they were merely impressions. On the other hand, I always felt as if she was too fiery and adventurous to be delta (granted, she is 4w5 sx/sp, but still, each quadra has a spirit). Here are a few portions from a recent convo about her type:

Christy: I take a buch of stuff
Christy: and like see that pattern
Me: sounds Ni
Christy: and tehn can seee wheere its heading oh
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Christy: Si firsts kinda
Christy: its too much for me
Christy: it like I feel ike we are wastin time
Christy: like enjoying every little thing
Christy: which grosses me out lol;
...
Christy: see Ithink I do value Si cause
Christy: I need someone to calm me down basically
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Christy: ESTj's Si seems useful
Christy: as if they are teaching me how to realx by kind of doing it themselves
Christy: therefore making it ok for me to do it too
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Christy: I seriously need to be told what to do sometimes
Christy: well ya but like in a very clear to the point way
Christy: in order to get stuff done
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Christy: wow I just realized
Christy: I kinda like it when
Christy: people annoy me lol
Christy: its like they can bring me out of a state of
Christy: like an introverted state
Christy: they can like wake me up kinda
Christy: and get me to
Christy: like merky does it

Se seeking? lol

DISCUSS

[Gilly]

Even when she talks about wanting an LSE's Si, she talks about the other person essentially "taking the lead:" if they do it, then she feels more comfortable doing it.

Personally I am highly skeptical of the idea of an EII E4.

[FDG]

Actually, there's a point in the LSE descriptions that mentions exactly this fact:

3. "Rage is a mighty god of the strong". He tends to take other people out of the condition of complacency. He does not speak much about what is good, considers it self-evident. With his grumbling emotions he strives to extinguish emotions of others. He believes that redundant emotions tire people, and this is absolutely true if applied to his dual (The Humanist). During a conversation he pressures his interlocutor, even tries to intimidate him, but if people do not fear him, he becomes courteous and polite. Fury is his line of defense in a situation of emergency in which he feels otherwise helpless. The aim of his fury is to mobilize his partner, and when this is achieved, he calms down.

and

Even when she talks about wanting an LSE's Si, she talks about the other person essentially "taking the lead:" if they do it, then she feels more comfortable doing it.

This would actually be the part of LSE rather than

[strrrng]

That description was shit. Poor grammar, vagueness and just whatever. The descriptions of the functions on wikisocion, and stuff from filatova is more reliable. I could easily see an ESTp behaving that way, in a given context.

[Ritella]

yeah i agree with FDG.
I think Christy's comments might be about wanting , not .
For example, I identify a lot with feeling like "relaxation" is a waste of time. My favorite SNL skit is the one with the women who just sip coffee and chat. I'm always like "shouldn't you be working?"
The thing is, though, I really hate and if there's a question for which one I'd prefer, it's not even a question really. I think a lot of EIIs may have an initial reaction of "ehw relaxation," but it's mainly due to the fact that they're Te is so terrible that they're scared of taking a break because they never work efficiently to begin with.

[strrrng]

Christy: like sitting in a hammock is like
Christy: It scares me
Me: oh
Christy: I want to run hahahha
Christy: I mean its too boring
Christy: my ex bf from long time ago
Me: lol
Christy: isfp
Me: you are not Si
Me: lol
Me: u want
Me: immediate stimulation
Me: sensory
Me: not internal continuous balance
Christy: he would like want to chill out in hammock all day or w/e
Me: lol
Me: yes
Me: INFj would eat that up
Christy: I never understood this

[FDG]

That description was shit. Poor grammar, vagueness and just whatever. The descriptions of the functions on wikisocion, and stuff from filatova is more reliable. I could easily see an ESTp behaving that way, in a given context.

Too bad it's an ESTj described there. Selecting your sources in way that confirms your opinion is a logical fallacy. However, as usual in socionics, if you're set out to prove that a person is his-her quasi-identical, it is going to be quite easy to do so.

[strrrng]

Too bad it's an ESTj described there. Selecting your sources in way that confirms your opinion is a logical fallacy. However, as usual in socionics, if you're set out to prove that a person is his-her quasi-identical, it is going to be quite easy to do so.

No, I just thought that description was rather poor. If you read what christy has described and pay attention, you will see that providing descriptions which peripherally encompass it is not an accurate correlation.

[Ritella]

Christy: like sitting in a hammock is like
Christy: It scares me
Me: oh
Christy: I want to run hahahha
Christy: I mean its too boring
Christy: my ex bf from long time ago
Me: lol
Christy: isfp
Me: you are not Si
Me: lol
Me: u want
Me: immediate stimulation
Me: sensory
Me: not internal continuous balance
Christy: he would like want to chill out in hammock all day or w/e
Me: lol
Me: yes
Me: INFj would eat that up
Christy: I never understood this

again, I don't know that this is a case against EII. That is my feeling toward SEIs as well.
I think this is because SEIs have PoLR and leading, so I feel like they're just being lazy. leading feels like overkill to me. I don't want to be in a constant state of relaxation. I'd feel brain dead. creative is much more appealing to me because it feels like the relaxation and sensorial emphasis is a means towards an end, rather than the sole focus; especially when it is blocked with because I view it as relaxation for the purpose of being more productive.

[strrrng]

again, I don't know that this is a case against EII. That is my feeling toward SEIs as well.
I think this is because SEIs have PoLR and leading, so I feel like they're just being lazy. leading feels like overkill to me. I don't want to be in a constant state of relaxation. I'd feel brain dead. creative is much more appealing to me because it feels like the relaxation and sensorial emphasis is a means towards an end, rather than the sole focus; especially when it is blocked with because I view it as relaxation for the purpose of being more productive.

Good point. The ENxp's are probably more prone to feeding off of such stimulation for extended periods.