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    If the humour styles of each of the quadras were personified who would they be?

    Delta humour = Robin Williams? I'm just suggesting that because I read somwhere that he is an ENFp.


    Edit: Is humour even quadra-related?
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    I think so.

    Alpha: chaotic humor; absurd; Monty Python, Mr Bean, MASH the movie and the first 3 seasons of the sitcom. Seinfeld, Curb your Enthusiasm.

    Beta: focus on ridiculing others, or yourself. Ex: Porky's

    Gamma: pointing out stupidity and absurdity of a situation indirectly; irony, sarcasm. Ex: Blackadder

    Delta: funny stories about groups of people. Ex: the latter seasons of MASH; Friends, Frasier, Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robot View Post
    If the humour styles of each of the quadras were personified who would they be?

    Delta humour = Robin Williams? I'm just suggesting that because I read somwhere that he is an ENFp.


    Edit: Is humour even quadra-related?
    I've heard ESFj for Williams. There's also a good thread on quadra humor on The Socionics Workshop: http://www.socionicsworkshop.com/dis....php?f=12&t=38

    I'll have to think a bit about personified humor styles. I'm inclined to say one can split quadras even further - like Alpha NT (e.g., Jon Stewart) and Alpha SF (e.g., Mel Brooks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I think so.

    Alpha: chaotic humor; absurd; Monty Python, Mr Bean, MASH the movie and the first 3 seasons of the sitcom. Seinfeld, Curb your Enthusiasm.

    Beta: focus on ridiculing others, or yourself. Ex: Porky's

    Gamma: pointing out stupidity and absurdity of a situation indirectly; irony, sarcasm. Ex: Blackadder

    Delta: funny stories about groups of people. Ex: the latter seasons of MASH; Friends, Frasier, Cheers.
    I do NOT like Alpha humour if that's what it is. Out of those I'd pick Delta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robot View Post
    I do NOT like Alpha humour if that's what it is. Out of those I'd pick Delta.
    Well for the record I don't like any of those either, ESPECIALLY delta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    Well for the record I don't like any of those either, ESPECIALLY delta.
    What do you like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Delta: funny stories about groups of people. Ex: the latter seasons of MASH; Friends, Frasier, Cheers.
    LokiV:

    Seinfeld.
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    Spot on tereg.. The only one on the list I do like, is Seinfeld. I generally don't find sitcoms funny or anything. But, I do like Dave Chapelle.
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    Humor wise I prefer Beta and Gamma. Alpha and Delta humor is alright, but it can get boring after a while. I kind of feel as if I need at least some kind of Se to get a good laugh most of the time.
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    I thought the movie White Chicks was funny. Friends is funny.
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    I like all of them. lol

    fwiw, Frasier was just the funniest show ever. So well-written, so well-acted. I adored Niles.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    Well for the record I don't like any of those either, ESPECIALLY delta.
    Same.

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    Spot on tereg.. The only one on the list I do like, is Seinfeld. I generally don't find sitcoms funny or anything. But, I do like Dave Chapelle.
    I dislike Seinfeld, and Frasier is mostly boring....
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    What quadra is "Scrubs"? Alpha?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    I've heard ESFj for Williams. There's also a good thread on quadra humor on The Socionics Workshop: http://www.socionicsworkshop.com/dis....php?f=12&t=38

    I'll have to think a bit about personified humor styles. I'm inclined to say one can split quadras even further - like Alpha NT (e.g., Jon Stewart) and Alpha SF (e.g., Mel Brooks).
    Mel Brooks! Yes, my brother and I laughed and laughed at High Anxiety....Nurse Diesel. and I used to love watching Get Smart way back when. (showing my age, I realize)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Same.



    I dislike Seinfeld, and Frasier is mostly boring....
    Oh no, it's brilliant. It's like a play the way the scenes are set up and the staging and the lack of dumb music and canned laughter. I love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    What quadra is "Scrubs"? Alpha?
    I think so. I love scrubs, even though I've watched very little of it (like 10 episodes). I really should get it.
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    Here's my list.

    Shows that I Enjoy: Dave Chappell, Southpark, Friends, Family Guy, Futurama, Jackass, The Colbert Report, Will & Grace.

    Shows that I think are only somewhat funny: The Simpsons, Seinfeld, Frasier, Mad TV, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, That 70's Show.

    Shows I find boring: Scrubs, King of the Hill, Carlos Mencia (yuck), most of the stupid stuff on cartoon networks adult swim, Everybody Loves Raymond.
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    Will and grace, malcom in the middle strike me as being stereotypically beta.

    I'm thinking the flintstones would also be delta?

    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I like all of them. lol

    fwiw, Frasier was just the funniest show ever. So well-written, so well-acted. I adored Niles.....
    I adored the relationship between Niles and Daphne.

    Fraiser is the only sitcom I actually enjoyed. The rest I appreciated, they were funny, made me laugh, but they didn't relax me, as in mentally set me at ease. Fraiser, coincidentally, with scrubs, is also the only sitcom I am able to watch online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Beta: focus on ridiculing others, or yourself. Ex: Porky's
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by esper View Post
    As far as Betas ridiculing others...I think that has more to do with your personal values than being a Beta. Anyone who does that in a way that is not purely playful is just being antisocial, not just Beta.
    I did mean it in a playful way.
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    Beta humor imo is something you'd get out of a show like Scare Tactics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Alpha: chaotic humor; absurd; Monty Python, Mr Bean, MASH the movie and the first 3 seasons of the sitcom. Seinfeld, Curb your Enthusiasm.

    Beta: focus on ridiculing others, or yourself. Ex: Porky's

    Gamma: pointing out stupidity and absurdity of a situation indirectly; irony, sarcasm. Ex: Blackadder

    Delta: funny stories about groups of people. Ex: the latter seasons of MASH; Friends, Frasier, Cheers.
    Fwiw, out of these four, irl I mostly joke like "Beta" and Gamma".
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Like um... like this for instance

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk8...rat-mr2004_fun
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    What about Arrested Development? that show is completely hilarious.
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    I guess for Beta, along the same lines I'd think probably shows like: Viva La Bam, Jackass, maybe Tom Green?, Candid Camera, etc etc would fall in this category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esper
    Okay. "Ridicule" implies contempt, which would be antisocial humor. Hopefully that is not Beta characterization.
    Esper, I hate you, you stupid bitch.


    see? wasn't that hilarious??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg
    I guess for Beta, along the same lines I'd think probably shows like: Viva La Bam, Jackass, maybe Tom Green?, Candid Camera, etc etc would fall in this category.
    Yeah, Jackass seems kinda beta, lol.


    ftr, Bam Margera could be INFp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Esper I hate you, you stupid bitch.


    see? wasn't that hilarious??
    Well I'm laughing but then again, I'm beta...lol
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    I really like the Simpsons (esp the social satire) and Will & Grace too I guess. But not really into sitcoms.

    I hope Expat was joking about Porky's. Please don't tell me juvenile slapstick with penis jokes is exclusively Beta humour

    Ime Gamma's can find jokes about socially awkward people hilarious, while Beta's laugh more at upstuck moral attitudes eg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    I guess for Beta, along the same lines I'd think probably shows like: Viva La Bam, Jackass, maybe Tom Green?, Candid Camera, etc etc would fall in this category.
    Hm, I don't know any of these except Candid Camera which I always thought was kinda dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    I really like the Simpsons (esp the social satire) and Will & Grace too I guess. But not really into sitcoms.
    Yeah, the Simpsons are great. Will & Grace is ok too, the show has a specific charm, certain episodes are better than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Yeah, the Simpsons are great. Will & Grace is ok too, the show has a specific charm, certain episodes are better than others.
    Yup, exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by esper
    Thank you for an apt demonstration! C;
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    I don't really identify with the Delta Humor picks, especially "Friends" which I've always considered really "conventional" or "obvious."

    I and other Deltas i know irl seem to have agreed on liking the following shows:
    -South Park (but not the gorey or overtly sexual reference parts)
    -Frasier (okay, that was on the list)
    -Scrubs
    -Family Guy

    I also really like what I think is Alpha humor (Monty Python...) and Gamma (Woody Allen...) but it can be sort of overload at times.

    The main thing I notice about things that Deltas find really funny is that there's an element of randomness and subconscious psychological connections (stereotypes, for example).
    Often I think that most jokes are witty, but predictable, so it doesn't make me LOL. But if you showed me a video of a city and then suddenly a guy dressed as a giant Puffin strolls down the streets and starts ordering people around, I would probably die.
    I've often thought that Delta humor is like Alpha humor but a bit more realistic/less absurd. Also, I think Deltas seem to find physical humor funnier than verbal humor.
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    I always thought that most sitcoms of fairly normal people (Will and Grace, Friends) were Gamma. To me, they're pretty formulaic, but my ESFP friends seem to love them.
    And speaking of formulaic: Will Ferrell movies. He comes out with a new one every year. They're always perfectly done- the timing, jokes, costumes are spot on- but it's not funny to me after awhile. I've always associated them with Gamma, as well.
    And, I think "The Onion" is a really good example of INTP humor.
    Gammas, do you concur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by esper View Post
    Okay. "Ridicule" implies contempt, which would be antisocial humor. Hopefully that is not Beta characterization.
    No, I think that Beta humor is also about ridiculing oneself as well as others, but when it's humorous, there is no contempt about it at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    I hope Expat was joking about Porky's. Please don't tell me juvenile slapstick with penis jokes is exclusively Beta humour
    I do think Porky's is Beta, but I think that Jackass, as tereg and strrrng mentioned, is a better example.

    You see, that's a good example of what I meant with "ridiculing oneself and others". They are playing pranks on others, but often they end up looking sillier than any of their targets, and they often find that even funnier.

    A short-lived, not-so-famous sitcom I liked is Ned & Stacey. I think that's essentially Beta in spirit, although with a Delta "mask". Which is perhaps why it failed.

    An interesting show is Just Shoot Me!, which is essentially about Betas making fun of Deltas.
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    I think it's easy to find the creative source for humor, and I'd agree that a lot of these are good examples of the types that created it, but it seems a stretch to me that the end result can be distinctly defined in terms of which quadra will appreciate it. So much of humor is subjective to the person on the receiving end of it. That is to say, I can find a lot of Ne humor in comedy that isn't Ne based, and I can find a lot of humor in situations and experiences just because I can relate to them, which isn't really dependent on IMs.

    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron
    What about Arrested Development? that show is completely hilarious.
    Yes! I can't believe they cancelled that show; it was pretty much a crime against humanity and I think there should be an inquiry by NATO.

    Hilarious shows off the top of my head:
    It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
    Arrested Development
    Tropic Thunder (go see it, Robert Downey Jr. is a genius)
    Pineapple Express (also a very feel good movie haha)
    maybe even Generation Kill... It's only like 25% comedy and based off a true story, but that's why it's so funny maybe

    Most of the shows I listed here I find varying degrees of amusing, but not really in a way that I can consistently correlate with the quadra assignments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    I really like the Simpsons (esp the social satire)
    I second this.

    Ime Gamma's can find jokes about socially awkward people hilarious
    I think those kinds of people are brilliant. Pruane2Forever is a prime example. Also, niffweed on his videos is either genuinely socially awkward or, in a stroke of parodical genius, intentionally hilarious.

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    Other Beta humour things (imo of course):

    Old School
    Animal House
    Wedding Crashers
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    King of the Hill is probably Delta.
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