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    Default Why Fives are better leaders than Eights (offensive)

    Is E8 the prototypical "leading" type ? I don't think so. Besides, you know, many contemporary leaders are Fives.


    E5 : not very sociable, but usually good company
    E8 : unsociable

    E5 : average EQ
    E8 : low EQ

    E5 : as D-, make sure obeying them is easy
    E8 : subordinates may feel obeying them is hard

    E5 : looks like a leader
    E8 : doesn't look like a leader, but like a fucked up dictator

    E5 : Fives are the shit
    E8 : Eights are shit

    E5 : builds power by building trust
    E8 : builds power by intimidation

    E5 : confronts when adequate
    E8 : always confront, even if it's useless

    E5 : efficient
    E8 : conservative

    E5 : deals easily with people they don't like
    E8 : every person they don't like is an incompetent lying bastard

    E5 : really "leads" subordinates
    E8 : doesn't really lead subordinates : rather administrate them

    E5 : able to tolerate violators for pragmatic reasons (e.g. Microsoft with illegal copies of Windows)
    E8 : doesn't tolerate violators

    E5 : less prone to racial discrimination (at worst, may make some racist joke once in a while)
    E8 : more prone to racial discrimination

    E5 : tolerates subordinates' misconducts, when light (because they aren't Nines...)
    E8 : able to fire an employee even for arriving five minutes late

    E5 : judge people by pragmatic criteria
    E8 : judge people by their reputation

    E5 : more prone to delegate (delegation is the shit)
    E8 : less prone to delegate

    E5 : unites subordinates in order to make them control themselves
    E8 : divide subordinates in order to control them

    E5 : prone to adopt new technologies
    E8 : reluctant to new technologies

    E5 : emotionally stable, with some exceptions such as 0+- LII
    E8 : emotionally unstable

    E5 : 83% of introverts, 17% of extroverts
    E8 : 50% of introverts, 50% of extroverts, but even E8 extroverts are like "sub-extroverts", so they don't count

    E5 : doesn't find normal that subordinates fear them
    E8 : finds normal that subordinates fear them

    E5 : management is a science
    E8 : management is a power struggle, and I deserve all the power, of course

    E5 : do it my way, if you don't find a better idea
    E8 : do it my way, and shut the fuck up

    E5 : good motivators
    E8 : poor motivators

    E5 : poor listeners, but try to make an effort
    E8 : poor listeners, and don't give a fuckin' fuck

    E5 : helps avoidant subordinates
    E8 : takes advantage of avoidant subordinates, or fires them

    E5 : not demanding
    E8 : demanding

    E5 : employees should work because it's as natural as play and rest
    E8 : employees are lazy and irresponsible, and should be put under pressure in order to make them work

    E5 : negociates
    E8 : "negociating ? what the fuck does that mean ?"

    E5 : less prone to abuse subordinates
    E8 : more prone to abuse subordinates


    EDIT: I found this video, which is pretty relevant. The boss is 00- EII. http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-...ne-an-employee
    Last edited by machintruc; 08-24-2008 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Besides, you know, many contemporary leaders are Fives.
    No.

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    Heh. Mach, you know you're okay. I sense you really wanna do the right thing underneath it all despite your southpark-ish white trash hick vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Heh. Mach, you know you're okay. I sense you really wanna do the right thing underneath it all despite your southpark-ish white trash hick vibe.
    Who doesn't like South Park ?

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    Machintruc,

    Negotiate is spelt with a t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    Machintruc,

    Negotiate is spelt with a t.
    so then ? what the fuck is wrong with making minor mistakes ? go fuck yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    so then ? what the fuck is wrong with making minor mistakes ? go fuck yourself
    Machintruc, You need a good kick up the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    lol, I like you machintruc, you make me laugh.
    Bake him some cookies then. Reward his bad behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    pshaw. what bad behavior? And I don't bake cookies for frenchmen.
    He told me to go fuck myself. He deserves a beating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    or maybe you're just too sensitive, he said it with grin ( ) after all.
    He can still go fuck HIMSELF. I don't need that shit.

    It's generally considered MORE rude to grin when you say something negative to someone.

    Like:

    (stands to side)

    You think yourself that you're funny.

    Let's just play a little game.

    And then when people have already started a little game.

    Then let's turn the tables.

    And raise the stakes.

    And then let's see who's grinning.

    (stands to other side)

    If I was to tell you in front of your family, you were a whore, and slept around, whilst grinning, would that make it okay?

    It's a joke. Laugh.

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