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    Was just watching old re-runs on Youtube of this awesome show... types anyone?

    Daria: I really like her goals to become a writer, and we have a similiar-ish personality. At first she seems very Fi-ish due to her lack of expressive emotions, but I view Fe manifesting a lot differently depending on the specific type, and there's always a certain sense of collectivism/humanitarianism to her views that makes me think she's Fe-valuing.... especially her secret childhood love for sappy things. LII perhaps?

    Quinn: I would say Daria's conflictor, SEE. She's the life of the party, very popular/outgoing, knows how to be charismatic with people, and it's all dolled out with that sheer Gamma toughness. Her Se-valuing is so evident as she constantly barbs on people without worrying about the comfort or tact at all. The show seems very anti-Gamma so she is the frequent butt of the jokes more often than not.

    Daria's mom: I'm not very confident in this one but: ESE? Yes, I would believe Daria's mom is actually her dual. When all the chips are down, when she feels weak/unprotected & lost the most, Daria tries to call on her mommy for help. This might seem well, typical (it's her mom, duh)... but she relies on emotional, private stuff to be worked out with her. Daria's mom is a workaholic like a lot of ESEs, but it's always done in a way where it doesn't seem to hit Daria's polr. She can still get upset at her mom, but they share similiar views and both don't really like Quinn's shallowness.

    Daria's dad: I'm stuck on either EII or LII... but based on their shaky marriage (it was a cartoon played up for drama I know, but taken seriously for criticism purposes, their relationship really was genuinely dysfunctional) and lack of any respectful feelings... I'd say he's a very, very unhealthy EII.

    Trent: IEI. Typical romantic/slacker vibe, don't see him as anything else. Has sooooo much trouble exerting himself. Beta epicness and awe at the crazy shit of the world. Has such an underlying erotic vibe that makes him easy to fall in love with, but so hard to work with/be dependent on. Te-polr is so crystal clear, can't think of anything else.

    Tom: Delta IEE or Alpha ILE most likely. Has a very down to earth yet diplomatic & idealistic brain all at once, looks like he'd complement Daria's writing well by being more of a refined/public voice for her works. Always dresses neat, is wealthy, but doesn't come across as smug or pretentious about it. Looks like he'd fit into any college/aristocratic setting extremely well.

    Brittany: Despite being brain-dead she has a great moral character... and does surprisingly heroic things for, well, a Cheerleader. Again she secretly always seems to be there for Daria when she needs it the most (and vice-versa) which is what duals do, so I'm guessing another ESE just not a kinda more ... obvious one? like Daria's mother. (Brittany's boyfriend Kevin is obviously not her dual, I don't think- I say he's SLE.) There would be lots of chemistry between Kevin and Trent I'd imagine.

    That black dude on campus: SEI or IEE.
    That black girl that tries too hard to be goody-goody & perfect: A much more healthy EII?

    Mr. O'Neil: He's such a caricature and comic-relief & they ALWAYS make fun of him (well they do the others but almost every character has redeeming moments but his over-the-top emotional sentimentality is always ripped on) so I don't really know. He's too much of a joke to type effectively, perhaps.

    Weird bugging eye-out teacher (forgot name): LSI? Come to think of it, I could actually see a duality between him and Mr. O'Neil (so EIE for o'neil?).

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    Someone constantly called me daria in highschool. Oh the wonderful memories...

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    lol That's odd, I kinda always thought of you as a more fun, practical girl than a nerdy, book-ish Daria. Well Daria was practical too.. well maybe not practical, but she sure was a realist.

    Yeah anyways I know a lot of people that got called that in high school. =D

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    I always thought Daria was ILI.
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    Interesting. I think the show is mostly from a Gamma perspective, honestly. I would have thought...

    Daria - ILI
    Jane - Gamma SF? More ESI than SEE. Seems like implied, lol...
    Quinn - ESE > EIE
    Helen - Some ST, probably rational; LSE works well.
    Jake - Some NF, perhaps a realistic depiction of an EII from the Gamma perspective.
    Trent - Irrational seems like a sure bet, and his particularly unfocused brand of laziness seems Si oriented. Seems like an ethical type. Perhaps IEE?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I just read through your typings, B&D, and the one that jumps out at me is Trent as IEI, which, as far as real-life representatives of types go, does seem more likely than IEE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    From Wikipedia:

    The titular character of the series, Daria is present in every episode and central to almost every plot. Abrasive and cynical to a terminal degree, Daria's intellectuality and academic insight is often counterbalanced by her devout lack of motivation. Her trademark on the show was that she rarely changed the expression on her face or the tone of her voice, except for a small satisfied smile akin to the Mona Lisa's when she is pleased.
    Yeah, sounds more ILI-ish. She seems to have a Fe PoLR anyway. Yeah Trent is IEI, my identical for sure.
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    Interesting. I think the show is mostly from a Gamma perspective, honestly.
    You know I thought about this. They're always trying to... make everything have a 'productive purpose' a bit too much, but to me it isn't pushy enough to be Gamma. I'm just going by what Expat himself always says about Gamma, how they're really all oh so adamant about that practical, no-nonsense real-world business accomplishments. Ann Coulter obviously has nothing against ripping a housewife into shreds for her career, the show does seem to try hard to be serious at times than that. I can't believe I'm taking this show so seriously now, in fact, god I need a life but lol anyway.

    There's a lot of humanitarian mumbo jumbo thrown in with the episodes, but people who seem to seek it out for their own sake seem to get laughed at/degraded. Could just be an 'American culture' thing, can't be 'too emo' thing... though that doesn't make sense, since Daria came from a time where that lifestyle was more socially approved of, and the emo-bashing thing started in the 2000s.... Besides, I think the show was very welcoming to Trent in the beginning but overtime they seem to paint him as this like super slacker in the bad way with no redeeming qualities, and made his passivity so annoying instead of charming.

    I'd say it's Delta more than anything. Not too 'get a job, smelly hippie' ish like Gamma and not too 'be happy to be a fag' ish like Beta or Alpha.

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    I just read through your typings, B&D, and the one that jumps out at me is Trent as IEI, which, as far as real-life representatives of types go, does seem more likely than IEE.
    I don't know if you've seen Tom as well but my personal view and understandings of socionics, he would be the IEE one. IEEs are always so equally sensitive to those that don't fit in and those that do. It's extremely charming, no other type really has that touch. (Let's face it, I think we both would be too sensitive to the outcast.) So, he can kinda understand Daria but still cover her weaknesses with a different strength. It almost seems Dual-ish, but I doubt they are really especially because there is too much initial chemistry to be true duals to me.

    Trent writes songs about social injustices frequently and his own personal feelings, such a Beta thing. "Wearing watches depresses me." LoL he's so emo but hot I can't help but love him. Yeah, see now Tom would exactly be the type to go "I understand how you feel, but here's why you should still pursue a more practical outlet for your creativity" blabla typical Delta 'You can feel good and still be productive in the world, buying a new xbox with real money can be FUN and empowering!' speech.

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    My thoughts (from memory)

    Daria struck me as ILI with Brittany being SEE and Brittany's bf some Se-ego, SLE sounds decent to me.

    Jane struck me as IEI. She reminds me of glamourama actually. *shrug*

    The show Sick, Sad World had that sort of... I always loved the placement of the segment having absolutely nothing to do with anything going on in the actual episode.

    When aliens eat out, where do they relieve themselves? Extraterrestrial restaurant restrooms, tonight on Sick, Sad World.

    Loved that show.
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    Brittany being SEE might make more sense than ESE I guess.... yes can't picture Kevin as anything other than a friendly SLE.

    I'm still a little ??? on the show being Gamma-friendly though.

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    Actually thinking more about it I could easily see SLI for Jane. IEI, not so much. The wikipedia article on the show actually gave a decent shpiel as far as type-relevant information, IMO:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia List of Characters in Daria
    (First Appearance: Episode #101, "Esteemsters") Daria's artistic best friend and fellow outcast, as well as the youngest of the five Lane siblings. While sharing some of Daria's cynical views and attitudes, Jane is much more lively and well adjusted than her best friend. Living with her older brother Trent (see below), she manages to stay completely functional and content with life despite complete absence of parental guidance or even presence. Jane is the show's second central character, and is voiced by Wendy Hoopes.
    Sounds like it could be a "sensor" version of Daria, IMO.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Jane's more lively & well-adjusted than Daria? Oh please. Maybe a little livelier, but not more well-adjusted. She had no real friends until she met Daria and took Mr. O'Neil's self-esteem class like 6 times in a row because she didn't have anything better to do with her afternoons. I'm pretty sure it was Daria that suggested they take the test together to graduate and do something else to hang out.

    IEI, not so much.
    Yeah Jane isn't an IEI.

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    Okay, yeah now I *really* think I see the duality relationship between Daria and Brittany. ILI/SEE. Thought this was LII/ESE at first but the former fits better.

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    lol i've been watching this latelY too
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Aww I love Daria LII works for me What about Jane?
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    I wonder about the type of her voice actor, Tracy Grandstaff.

    http://www.comedycentral.com/press/i...grandstaff.jpg
    http://sharetv.org/images/person/tracy_grandstaff.jpg

    There are clips of her somewhere in there, you'll have to find them yourself though.
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    I've been on another Daria spree

    Daria - Ni-ILI
    Jane - Si-SLI

    Quinn - Si-ESE
    Helen - LSE
    Jake - Fi-ESI

    Trent - Ni-IEI

    Brittany - Se-SEE
    Kevin - EP something

    Jodie - Fi-EII
    Mack - Te-SLI

    Sandi - Ni-LIE
    Stacy - Fe-SEI
    Tiffany - Si-SEI

    Ms. Li - Fe-ESE
    Mr. O'Neill - Fi-IEE

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    Daria is a fictional character and a stereotype of ILI.

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    Watching this again. Updated typings.

    Daria - Ni-INTp
    Jane - Si-ISTp (thought ISFj before but like Gilly said, she's the sensor version of Daria basically)

    Quinn - Fe-ESFj
    Sandy - Ni-ENFj
    Stacy - Fi-ENFp (lol she tries so hard to please everybody and everybody walks all over her, much like the few other Delta NFs in this show i.e. Jodie, Mr. O'Neil, Jake)
    Tiffany - Si-ISFp

    Helen - Te-ENTj (or ESTj, but it seems like she understands Daria much more easily than others around her)
    Jake - Fi-INFj
    Aunt Amy - Ni-INTp

    Trent - Ni-INFp
    The rest of the Lane Family - Ne/Si as fuck (mom is Fi-ENFp and dad Ne-ENTp or something)
    Tom - Ne/Si

    Britney - Se-ESFp
    Kevin - Fe-ISFp (I could see ESTp but I can't really see a reason to prefer it over ISFp.)
    Upchuck - Ti-ENTp

    Jodie - Fi-INFj (<3)
    Mack - Si-ISTp

    Mr. O'Neil - Fi-ENFp
    Mr. DeMartino - Se-ISTj
    Ms. Janet - Si-ESTj
    Ms. Angela Li - Te-EXTj

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    Jane is a tough one, ESI isnt a bad typing IMO but she and Daria seem more like appropriately distant post-modern social co-commentators, and Jane has an aristocratic feel to her. Can't really see benefit with Trent, Daria seems llike the bridge between them.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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