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    Default What type is Darkstar?

    Well, I wanted to figure it out myself but why not taking some free help although it can be a bit confusing.

    At first when I thought of doing this thread I was going to copy and paste different bits and pieces from all the type descriptions and tell you how I work through that but it got a little biased and I saw the outcome of that so I don't think that approach works.

    But what the hell should you need to know about me?

    For what it is worth I enjoyed the alpha forum most, then Beta, then delta and way back was gamma which I had to force myself to even read a single thread

    It would be cool if this thread would come with questions that I answered then more questions then answers then we all sit down and think, perhaps ask a final question then we throw out types. If someone says a type immediatly everyone will get affected by that and your own thought might not be your own although you think so.

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    Meh, I'll just state my thought on your type, and everyone who is easily influenced by groupthink, LOOK AWAY NOW.

    That's better.

    I don't know if you ever stated your type on the forum, but my impression of you is a Ti EP, and I'd lean SLE slightly. I haven't paid all that much attention to your posts, though, and it could be influenced by your self-typing if you ever said that. I do think the thing you posted in another thread about sitting down being just wasting time away and standing means you're walking around looking for something to do is very much reminiscent of how I understand Se egos, especially Se EPs, to feel like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Meh, I'll just state my thought on your type, and everyone who is easily influenced by groupthink, LOOK AWAY NOW.

    That's better.

    I don't know if you ever stated your type on the forum, but my impression of you is a Ti EP, and I'd lean SLE slightly. I haven't paid all that much attention to your posts, though, and it could be influenced by your self-typing if you ever said that. I do think the thing you posted in another thread about sitting down being just wasting time away and standing means you're walking around looking for something to do is very much reminiscent of how I understand Se egos, especially Se EPs, to feel like.
    i disagree.

    how impressionable i am.

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    I'm leaning towards ILE.

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    Let's make a dialogue

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    haha I have thought about that a lot. I would probably try to act really cool about it and try not to let anyone find out about it. I don't want hords of people after me wanting cash for this and that.

    I would eventually find a big mansion, a chateau where I would be for myself. I would hire a cleaner lady (a sexy one), a cook, a butler that helps me with things and for consulting when I don't know how to act, like alfred in Batman. Kind of always thinks ahead and knows right and wrong Also some worker that can fix if there is something wrong with the building, maybe go and chop down some of the nearby woods ( I own a lot of forest near my chateau). He can take care of the estate, make sure the grass is trimmed and the flowers ok and stuff

    Then if I get bored I could improve the chateau defense and build a dam around it like a castle, maybe get some guard dogs. I would become kind of weird that only rich people can. I would eventually tell my family about the money and let them take part of it, I would help them achieve their goals in life.

    Other then that the money will be well invested and I will take care of the chateau with money from interest and stuff. I would also have other places and around the world where I could live in. I would learn a lot of stuff, becoming like a french gentleman thief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpine_Lus%C3%A8ne)

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    Well, I am not sure really. I read this: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Irrational

    Both had things I could relate to.

    take this list for instance

    I bolded the things I relate to.
    The others I don't relate to or I don't really know which side I'm leaning towards.

    Rationals

    (Sometimes called 'shizothymes' in early socionics literature)

    1. Focus on what they think should be said or done in each particular situation
    2. Try to change their state of mind to fit their activity
    3. Respect, honor, and initiate traditions (repeating activities involving other people)
    4. Try to 'civilize' life by introducing good traditions, habits, and structure
    5. Like to take on obligations in advance so that they can prepare for them
    6. Intellectually, usually believe that things should be a certain way and that mankind should strive to materialize that
    7. Tend to act a certain way until circumstances stop them

    Irrationals

    (Sometimes called 'cyclothymes' in early socionics literature)

    1. Focus on their own moods and states of mind and what they feel like saying or doing
    2. Try to change their activity to fit their state of mind
    3. Tend to neglect and forget traditions (repeating activities involving other people) and instead act on their impulses
    4. Try to make life spontaneous by breaking traditions and habits for the sake of spontaneity
    5. Dislike long-term obligations but freely take on short-term obligations if they feel like it
    6. Intellectually, usually believe that things are naturally the way they are, and that mankind should recognize and accept that
    7. More artful at "going with the flow" and change their strategy more quickly

    Are there any good ways to find out if you are rational irrational?

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    I think you should read the Ego block functions of two mirror types from a quadra that you are considering participation in.

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    What should I look for?

    Say I'm thinking of alpha and beta (I know so little about gamma and delta). Which types should I read the ego block for? All types? Then why would you mention the mirror types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar View Post
    What should I look for?

    Say I'm thinking of alpha and beta (I know so little about gamma and delta). Which types should I read the ego block for? All types? Then why would you mention the mirror types?
    The distinction between ENTp and INTj and between ESTp and ISTj might be more distinct then you think, and you might get a stronger idea of which quadra you are in as well as what temperament etc.

    I'm not really being very precise there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    Not SLE
    agree

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    Please, never talk about yourself in third person. =/

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    Starfall, Loki, if you wanna be cryptic sauerkrauts please don't do it here. You are not convincing anyone and if you don't give anything more then that you are of NO use to me. My goal is to convince myself what type I am. I am more interested to see through your point of view to understand how you think rather then WHAT you think.

    Starfall, Loki, Dove, I get the feeling that you all are cowardly goblins hiding in a bush, then you run over and reply in the thread then you run back to your bush not really explaining what you are saying; afraid of putting your neck out to far.


    As I said, let's make dialogue not some oneliner shit

    Now I am going to read up on quadras and temperament. I'll be back

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    Ezra's initial vibes from Darkstar

    • Fe valuing

    • Irrational

    • Most likely EP


    That pretty much leaves Ti creative. Take your pick.

    You're welcome to argue.

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    Well, I read up on the temperaments and the only one I could eliminate is IP. EJ and EP was what I related to most, IJ also makes sense but not as much...

    I'm don't know what you mean by Fe valuing?? Please explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar View Post
    Well, I read up on the temperaments and the only one I could eliminate is IP. EJ and EP was what I related to most, IJ also makes sense but not as much...

    I'm don't know what you mean by Fe valuing?? Please explain
    He's saying that he personally thinks you are 'most likely' an ENTp or an ESTp.

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    "Fe valuing" = belonging to a quadra with Fe (Fe-using) and Ti (Fe-seeking) instead of Fi (Fe not emphasized) and Te (completely opposite focus from Fe), so: Alpha or Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar View Post
    Well, I read up on the temperaments and the only one I could eliminate is IP. EJ and EP was what I related to most, IJ also makes sense but not as much...
    Pretty much the same sentiments as I have.

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    I want to reinforce Fe valuing as being more obvious to me. I would like to say EP has become less evident in favour of IP, but you say you least identify with IP.

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    what gives?
    I will not aim for the head.

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    Basically, the way you talk is reminiscent of the way a lot of Fe egos talk on this forum; the way they participate in conversation.

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    that don't really say anything to me.
    from http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=IP_temperament

    At first there isn't really much about IP's there, second there isn't much that I can relate to in there. Nothing at all really. Whereas EJ and EP I can relate to much more, and IJ there are some stuff.

    What are the big differences in EJ-EP? Let's say it stands between them, how do I pick one from the other?
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    I dunno, mate, I'm still tryna work that out for myself. Apparently EJs are normative thinkers, but that's bullshit, because I'm an SLE, and I'm a normative thinker. I always make claims about how the world should be.

    I think a good comparison to make between EJs and EPs is that EJs have this constant flow of "calm energy"; they literally do not stop until they are absolutely knackered. They shop till they drop; they socialise until there's no one left to socialise with; they work until there is no more work left to be done. EPs are far more strategic with their energy. Some say EJs are more predictable; EPs less so, but again, I'm not sure, as my behaviour is pretty damn predictable to a lot of people.

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    Starfall, Loki, Dove, I get the feeling that you all are cowardly goblins hiding in a bush, then you run over and reply in the thread then you run back to your bush not really explaining what you are saying; afraid of putting your neck out to far.
    I mean that it's arrogant, faux self-confident to talk of yourself in third person. I *wish* I was afraid of you, but you're too little boyish/immature to be effectively manly for me, so whatever.

    And yes, for some reason you annoy me greatly. But it's in a kid way.

    Cowardly my ass. Just cause you don't like what I say? Go smoke exhaust fumes if you really believe that.

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    Who said that, B&D?

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    i take it back, elro. maybe ESTp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Who said that, B&D?
    I'm still waiting for a response, B&D. Who said what you quoted? I'm interested to know.

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    ExTp seems certain to me. the Fe HA was blatantly clear in the chat, as the dude constantly made desperate attempts to try to gain that type of atmosphere for himself, yet completely sucked at it. I think ENTp>ESTp because he seemed to have more of a light, scattered attitude (general alpha vibe + Ne ego), rather than the more direct way ESTps affect their environment.
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    well how bout go and read earlier posts. But maybe you are having one of your lazy days.. It was me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    You're annoying as fuck.
    Seconded!

    EDIT: Oh wait, something productive. Clearly Fe. Calls people an attention whore when attention whoring himself. Has been markedly insulting in previous posts while thinking to be clever or witty and missing the mark entirely. Comes off as childish.

    That could be...any beta or alpha.
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    omg darkstar you can live under my stairwell.
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