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    I am curious as to your thoughts on how you would type this over-arching type of humor based on its common qualities. An edited paraphrase:

    Some general features characteristic of X humor are:
    • Puns
    • Nonsense
    • Black humor
    • Eccentricity
    • Satire and sarcasm
    • Self-deprecation
    • The use of understatement and irony
    What stands out out from this list is the importance of verbal humor as a key element...

    Themes
    • Smut and innuendo
    • Disrespect to members of the establishment
    • The absurd and surreal
    • The dark
    • The manic
    • The humor inherent in everyday life
    • The 'war' between parents/teachers and children
    • The class system (dim-witted members of the middle/upper-class)
    • The lovable rogue
    • The embarrassment of social ineptitude
    • Making fun of foreigners
    • Bullying and harsh criticism (*note bully comes off worse than the victim)
    • Parodies of stereotypes
    • Tolerance of, and affection for, the eccentric (especially when aligned with inventiveness)
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    Overall it seems Alpha, but not quite; so I guess it's Alpha NT in particular. It sounds like a description of Monty Python humor, or of MASH the movie and even of the early, Alpha phase of the sitcom.
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    That is my suspicion as well. It is from the Wikipedia article on British humour. I find this interesting because the integral type of British humour is then noticeably off-set by the integral type of the UK (usually LIE or LSE).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    That is my suspicion as well. It is from the Wikipedia article on British humour. I find this interesting because the integral type of British humour is then noticeably off-set by the integral type of the UK (usually LIE or LSE).
    Well, I think that Gamma is accurate for the UK, not sure about LIE in particular.

    But with regard to the apparent contradiction between the Alpha NT humor and the Gamma integral type. I don't find it so mysterious, since I very much appreciate that kind of humor myself. One of the things I most enjoy about the UK is the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, which is very British and very Alpha NT. I think it may have to do with the common functional blocking. The Alpha humor despises blocked with and blocked with , which resonates well with Gamma.
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    If that is the case, would it then be probable that the UK's old integral type was most likely Beta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    If that is the case, would it then be probable that the UK's old integral type was most likely Beta?
    Well, how "old" do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Well, how "old" do you mean?
    Previous integral type. Beta may have been the existing power sphere to which Alpha and Gamma would both be critical towards, and although Alpha humor was being used, the integral type was evolving more towards a Gamma orientation.
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    I mentioned that in my Cultural and Institutional Quadras article in the wiki (which I will complete). I think Britain has been culturally Gamma since Elizabeth I's time, with some Beta hiccups. So it would be interesting to see whether the appreciation for that kind of humor goes as far back as that. Incidentally, it might.

    Perhaps it does. In the Restoration - which was a Gamma revival, together with Alpha humor, after the Beta period of Oliver Cromwell - the atmosphere was such that a guy published the following poem about Charles II (quoting from memory):

    We have a clever witty king
    Whose word no one relies upon
    He never said a foolish thing
    Nor did he ever do a wise one


    To which Charles II replied, "that's very true, for my words are my own, and my actions are my ministers'."

    I think the Restoration is another example of this Gamma-Alpha combination, with other "gloomier" periods being, perhaps, indeed where there were Beta hiccups, usually in times of serious wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I mentioned that in my Cultural and Institutional Quadras article in the wiki (which I will complete). I think Britain has been culturally Gamma since Elizabeth I's time, with some Beta hiccups. So it would be interesting to see whether the appreciation for that kind of humor goes as far back as that. Incidentally, it might.

    Perhaps it does. In the Restoration - which was a Gamma revival, together with Alpha humor, after the Beta period of Oliver Cromwell - the atmosphere was such that a guy published the following poem about Charles II (quoting from memory):

    We have a clever witty king
    Whose word no one relies upon
    He never said a foolish thing
    Nor did he ever do a wise one


    To which Charles II replied, "that's very true, for my words are my own, and my actions are my ministers'."

    I think the Restoration is another example of this Gamma-Alpha combination, with other "gloomier" periods being, perhaps, indeed where there were Beta hiccups, usually in times of serious wars.
    This makes me interested in charting the presence of quadras in a culture's history. If you were to take Britain for example and try and locate the role that the different quadras played within a changing era over time, I would imagine that it could possibly reveal a number of relevant patterns and trends.
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    ALPHAAAA!!!

    Not just NT either, I'm partial to some of that stuff.....but I guess that makes me receptive to it as an (most likely) Alpha SF, so it probably is NT, come to think of it *ponders this*
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    Default Type this humor.

    Because it's funny shit.

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    And this.

    Whatever quadra this belongs in is my quadra.

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    i'd say ILE-ish

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    First vid made me think of E ...............err I stop here.

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    I'm not really sure if humor can apply within a whole quadra. It's probably more type related.

    I got SEI from the first video, and 2nd video I have no idea lol.

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    Harvey Birdman <3
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    I have been told that I look like the "Punched" guy. Something Sandberg? Anywho I think he is some kind of Fe type.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I think I'm in love with Phil Ken Sebben.

    HaHA! Shit.

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    I dont think that you can watch a video and tell "oh this is a XXXx joke" but I noticed that sensing types create different kind of jokes than intuitive types do. Though what kind of jokes they LIKE is another thing. The first video seems created by xNTx.

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