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    What you people think? What's her type? I think it's clear to everyone she is an ethical type, based on her songs and performances, the way she communicates but I can't decide if she's an SF or an NF. She seems to be an extrovert also and she seems to belong to the Extraverted with ethics (passionate) group of Gulenko's communication skills. So if this is true what I surmised up to now, the types that fit are ESFj, ESFp, ENFj, ENFp.
    What would be most likely for her?

    I've posted here a random picture, but I don't know if it's relevant.
    If you'd like to watch some videos with her









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    Amos = Too creepy to type

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    She's definitely an ISFp... judging by the music that she produces...

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    I added a poll, so let's see what's it gonna be, hihi




    I found something interesting here in her biography
    "The strict, uninspired curriculum proved completely at odds with her intuitive form of playing, and she was expelled from the school by the time she was 10.

    Undeterred in her conviction that music was her calling, she began to perform her songs in clubs as a teenager; in 1984 she moved to Los Angeles and formed her first band Y Kant Tori Read"

    Does this mean she's an N, in the socionics sense?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycophant
    Amos = Too creepy to type
    Oh, and you're not creepy?? Lol =)

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    I've read somewhere that she has trouble reading musical notes, but she is able to play songs simply after hearing them once. So she is probably an S. Very S, actually, most of her songs are about her personal emotional experiences, that's very S. I think she's definitely an Fp. I'm not sure if she's an E or an I, I don't know much about her personally. Though I guess she is more likely an E, so her type would be ESFp.

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    IEI?

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    Could Tori Amos be ESE?

    I know that most people will say no, because of her lyrics or something, but I wrote a few songs that people said were SO much like her music before I ever even heard her stuff (that was over 10 years ago and I honestly had no idea what she did or was like), and I also get told I look like her quite a bit, in real life, including gestures and stuff (a really obsessed INFp Tori fan told me this after she'd watched her interviews and this was when I was a teenager - she told me to listen to her music but I didn't until a few years later).



    If you don't agree, I won't argue. I actually just think it's interesting. If we're not the same type, we have some weird resemblance (maybe it's the Scottish and Native American roots).

    If she is ESE, I think she'd be my subtype, Si.

    Any thoughts on her type or whether I am right? I'm trying to learn after all.
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    I'm inclined to agree with the Ni-INFp typing of her.

    Tori Amos: Ni-INFp (Harmonizing subtype) [IEI-Si] (INFp-ISTp)












    http://www.buzzinemusic.com/intervie...o-sin-07312009





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    infp could be alright. I've also thought infj at times, but hey who knows. In the last pic she kind of reminds me of Agarina, maybe?
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    My ex-boyfriend thought she VI'd ESI, yet I can't seriously argue with IEI... I was first introduced to this typing of her circa August, 2009 on the socionics.com forum, and I gradually came to agree with it. Her music is pretty strong in Fe combined with a relatively strong Si-role based on things I've read (about her personally). I think Tori Amos and Trent Reznor are both Ni-INFp (Harmonizing subtype) [they both write about their 'feelings' and are comfortable expressing Fe and Se in their songs] . . . Tori Amos might be INFp-ISTp (and maybe sp/sx or so/sx per enneagram type stackings) and Trent Reznor might be INFp-INTp (and either sx/sp or sp/sx). Courtney Love might be ESTp-ESFp, ESTp-ENFj, or ESTp-ESFj sx/sp or sx/so:

    http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=80:80

    Here's a link about the past 'relationship'/'friendship' between Trent Reznor and Tori Amos:

    http://www.hereinmyhead.com/musicians/reznor.html

    'The rumor is that Tori and Trent had an actual relationship beyond friendship, which is why there is such intense feelings displayed when either one comes up for the other person. Another rumor is that Tori's song She's Your Cocaine is the "Ballad of Trent and Courtney Love". Finally, Trent's song Starfuckers Inc. has been thought to be related to Tori soley because she uses the word "starfucker" in her song Professional Widow. However, others have noted that Trent's Starfuckers Inc. is actually about Marilyn Manson [and Courtney Love, etc.], and not at all about Tori. Tori has performed Nine Inch Nail's Hurt several times as bridges and intros to her songs, Caught A Lite Sneeze, Precious Things, Bells For Her, and Blood Roses during live concerts over the years. While it is obvious that something happened to the friendship between Tori and Trent, it seems best to assume that we don't really know much at all.'

    'The interviewer asks Trent about musicians whom he considers friends: "Tori would be another example. She called me to do this vocal track. It wasn't that big a deal. Her first album was permanently in my car's CD changer. It really struck me as well written, in a similar vein to what I was doing--from a different point of view, but the same kind of addicting, pouring out, gushing, baring, naked kind of song. Other people put their fingers in the pie, and they kind of messed up a friendship. We're not that close now. Some malicious meddling on the part of Courtney Love. But I still feel the same feelings for Tori."-- Trent Reznor; Spin Magazine, 1996'



    'T[ori]: When I was writing the song, the song said "I think Trent Reznor would be really good to sing on me." So I made it happen, and I met him. I flew into Los Angeles and I went up to the Sharon Tate house where he was staying. It's a very spooky house, not in the way it looks but just because you know what it is.
    I[nterviewer]: You told me a story about cooking chicken for him in the Tate house which gave you an indication that maybe things were kinetically strange there.
    T[ori]: I can make this chicken. Whatever he tells you, ever, the truth is I make really good chicken. It's oven fried and I've been making it since I was a little kid. It's awesome how it dribbles down your chin and the butter -- yummy. I was worried about his health because he's not eating a lot, it doesn't seem like he is, and I just said "Let me make some chicken. I'd feel really good if I could do that." And so he said "Yeah, come on up and make it. [But] I don't believe you're really as good [at it] as you say you are." And I said "No, I make good chicken, Trent." And so I brought all the ingredients and I swear to you for the life of me, I couldn't make this chicken. HORRIBLE. It's not like I'd been proven wrong. But anything that is cooked there, my chicken being the only experience I had, of course....Nothing bakes. So I don't know what to tell you, but I think it's a very weird place because -- I promise you, I know how to make this chicken!-- Tori; WHFS Press, Spring 94'

    "I: Exactly. But one of your friends, Trent Reznor. I was reading something about you cooking dinner for him over at that scary house.
    T[ori]: Well, look, he's so anorexic sometimes. I just look at him and go, baby, you need my cooking honey. And he was very open to the idea because, you know, I don't think he gets much nurturing, that guy. There's just not a lot of nurturing going on. Anyway, so I went over there and I brought all my little supplies because they only have Coca-cola in the fridge.
    I: In case you don't know, this is the house where Sheryl Tate was...
    I2: Sharon Tate.
    T[ori]: Yeah. That house.
    I: Yeah. That's a spooky to me.
    T: It's torn down now.
    I2: I want to hear what you cooked, this is interesting.
    T[ori]: Well I was gonna make him baked chicken because like, look, I'm from the South, I know how to make chicken, I've been making it since I was 10 years old, with my Nanny, my Grandmother in the kitchen, where it's dripping down your chin, and that whole buttery thing, right? Well I'm making it, and _nothing's happening_. I mean its just, yes it's cooking right, the oven's cooking, I've made it the same time, the same way that I've made it for 20 years. And it's _not working_. I mean, you know how globs of flour were collecting on the chicken. And, it just wasn't working, nothing was working, and he's standing there with his arms folded thinking he's like, I'm not applying to be your wife or anything. I mean this isn't what's happening anyway. So why are you not giving me a chance? This is wrong. This is your house. And I called my mother on the phone, things got so bad, and I said, Mom, what's wrong, I can't make this chicken for this guy, and she goes, well you know honey, I heard the Folger's coffee heiress was also in that house, and she died that night, and I think there's a curse on anything that has to do with culinary things. And I'm like, thanks, Mom.
    -- Tori; 99X Radio Interview, Aug 5, 1994"


    'Way back in 1994, when the only men she was dissecting were her father and God, Amos told Spin, "I love the screaming male aggression of [Trent Reznor's] music, because I'm not in touch with that part of myself so much. I think there ought to be a raging-male cruise line we could take, go to seven islands and just watch these guys act out."-- Tori; Village Voice, Oct 3-9, 2001'




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    Seems ethical. Don't know anything about her not Trent, but seeing this vid:



    I would be inclined to say, they're both beta, tentatively

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    I've alvvays liked the sensitivity in her songs. I think she's INFj or INFp.

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    INFp. If not INFp, then INFj (but no...).

    I think she was cutter with her original nose, even if it was thicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VixenDogFox View Post
    Could Tori Amos be ESE?

    I know that most people will say no, because of her lyrics or something, but I wrote a few songs that people said were SO much like her music before I ever even heard her stuff (that was over 10 years ago and I honestly had no idea what she did or was like), and I also get told I look like her quite a bit, in real life, including gestures and stuff (a really obsessed INFp Tori fan told me this after she'd watched her interviews and this was when I was a teenager - she told me to listen to her music but I didn't until a few years later).



    If you don't agree, I won't argue. I actually just think it's interesting. If we're not the same type, we have some weird resemblance (maybe it's the Scottish and Native American roots).

    If she is ESE, I think she'd be my subtype, Si.

    Any thoughts on her type or whether I am right? I'm trying to learn after all.
    She looks a bit like Shania Twain (expression-wise), she could be ESE. But I also see some Beta NF or IEE. She's obviously an F type.

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    I voted for SLE (ESTp). If Silke (siuntal) votes, it'll probably be for IEI, since most of her typings (99%?) are the same as Socionix (Ashton/mfckr et al.) . . . . Then again, even in circa August 2009, Marie84 typed Tori Amos as IEI on the Socionics.com forum.




    “Hello Mr. Zebra, can I have your sweater? / 'Cause it's cold, cold, cold in my hole, hole, hole / Ratatouille Strychnine, sometimes she's a friend of mine/With a gigantic whirlpool that will blow your mind / Hello Mr. Zebra, ran into some confusion with a Mrs. Crocodile-dile-dile / Furry muscles marching on, she thinks she's Kaiser Wilhelm / Or a civilized syllabub to blow your mind / Figure it out, she, she's a good time fella / She got a little fund to fight for Moneypenny's rights / Figure it out, she, she is a good time fella / ‘Too bad the burial was premature,’ she said and smiled”



    “ . . . . Right on time/You get closer and closer / Call my name / There's no way in / Use that fame: Rent your wife and kid today / And maybe she will / I said maybe [Love] will / Caught a lite sneeze / Dreamed a little dream / Made my own pretty hate machine . . . . I need a big loan from the girl zone / I need a big loan from [the Delta] zone . . . .”



    ‘ . . . . “Perfect,” he laughed, ’cause your other half has got himself a Devil's access — “Welcome to England,” he said, "Welcome to my world” . . . . Who can stay strong when they only give us lies to lean on? / When your heart explodes, is it deathly cold? . . . . There is a magic world parallel / So leave your daily [pornographic prison] hell [the16types.info] — “Welcome to [Poland],” he said, “Welcome to my world...” / It's not a question if I can fight by your side and withstand anything . . . .”

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegra
    I think it really is tasteless to mention to me these intimate aspects of your sex life. These things are supposed to be intimate and not talked about so freely. I find it quite strange you send to me a link to an almost pornographic site. It is crude and it lacks the elegance human relationships should have. These are intimate aspects you should only browse with your boyfriend.
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    Agree with that wholeheartedly but I'm curious, agape, did you send her a link to 16types.info?




    “Way to go Mr. Microphone / Show us all what you don't know / Centuries, secret [socionics] societies / He's our commander still / Space Dog . . . . Deck the halls I’m young again / I'm you again / Racing turtles / The grapefruit is winning / Seems I keep getting this story twisted / So where's Neil when you need him? / Deck the halls it's you again / It's you again / Somewhere someone must know the ending / Is she still pissing in the river now? / Heard she'd gone/Moved into a trailer park / (So sure we were on something / Your feet are finally on the ground) / So sure those girls [and (homosexual/bisexual/heterosexual) thieves and bottomfeeders] now are in the Navy / Those bombs—our friends—can't even hurt you now / And hold those tears ‘cause they're still on your side / Don't hear the dogs barking / Don't say you know we've gone[,HERO]/Andromeda stood with those girls [and homosexual/bisexual/heterosexual street urchins and bums] before / The hair in pairs, it just got nasty / And now those girls [and homosexuals/bisexuals/heterosexuals] are [all] gone . . .”


    I once had a dream in which Tori Amos might have said, "Read The Patiences of Adulthood; do not be thwarted by their debut," or "Read the patiences of adulthood; do not be thwarted by their debut." Of course "patiences" doesn't really make sense, but I think that's what I dreamt.
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    “All faith has been already lost; hope seems a useless deceit; thought is paling and disappearing; the divine fire has left it; society has lost its sense of direction and in cold despair senses an abyss ahead of it and is ready to topple into it. Life is suffocating through lack of a goal. The future offers nothing; one must demand everything from the present, one must fill one’s life only with the necessities of the moment. Everything passes into the body, everything is used up in physical debauchery, and in order to compensate for the higher spiritual impressions which are lacking, people aggravate their nerves, their whole body with whatever is capable of arousing sensations. The most monstrous perversions, the most abnormal phenomena, gradually are taken for granted.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky


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    She was so beautiful and had the best crooked teeth, I wish she hadn't made herself a plastic replica of the expected average symmetrical doll.

    Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.

    In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.

    When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.

    So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEM View Post
    She was so beautiful and had the best crooked teeth, I wish she hadn't made herself a plastic replica of the expected average symmetrical doll.
    Agreed. I also think that her music has gone downhill since To Venus and Back (my favorite is Boys for Pele), enough that a lot of it embarrasses me to hear it. Her daughter ate her faeries...

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    IEI







    So my father said to me, 'Tori Ellen, I can't believe you wrote this song about me.' I said, 'I write everything about you, what are you surprised about?' He said, 'I'm really hurt by this one.' I said, 'Well which one is it?' He said, 'Well, you called me Satan.' I said, 'No! I was doing drugs with a South American shaman, and I really did visit the devil and, well, I had a journey.' He said, 'Oh, praise Jesus!'"
    My only fear of death is comin' back to this bitch reincarnated.




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    I was learned she is IEI but ESI anyone?


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    Just looking at her pics and knowing nothing else about her, I think she looks good, as in good enough to want to know her better. Maybe that means ESI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Just looking at her pics and knowing nothing else about her, I think she looks good, as in good enough to want to know her better. Maybe that means ESI.
    It does not mean that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    It does not mean that.
    My only fear of death is comin' back to this bitch reincarnated.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Just looking at her pics and knowing nothing else about her, I think she looks good, as in good enough to want to know her better. Maybe that means ESI.
    Maybe stop thinking ESI for every female - you think - looks good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Maybe stop thinking ESI for every female - you think - looks good?
    ESI is the new black.

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    Sx/Sp paragon, that was my first thought, and it manifested as I watched other interviews. Sociotype... IEI-Ni. Enneagram: 4w3 for sure.

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