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    Does anyone here figure that certain animals may share our socionics functions.
    I think that Se & Fi could be common in the animal world followed by Fe & Si.

    I can't really see which animals would exhibit Te & Ne .... and Ti & Ni would be even less likely. Has anyone else got views on this?
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    If animals do have socionics types, and I think it's possible they do (I've thought about this a fair bit before) then I don't think a single type applies to an entire species. I reckon something in the same vein as Socionics applies at least to intelligent animals (e.g. mammals etc.), if not to all. Obviously this can't be proven but meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLauritson View Post
    If animals do have socionics types, and I think it's possible they do (I've thought about this a fair bit before) then I don't think a single type applies to an entire species. I reckon something in the same vein as Socionics applies at least to intelligent animals (e.g. mammals etc.), if not to all. Obviously this can't be proven but meh.
    Yes. I don't even own cats or dogs, but I've been around enough of them to know there's quite a bit of variation in their "personalities."

    For instance my favorite cat ever lives next door. Very peaceful, curious cat with a penchant for climbing on top of doors swatting at flies and falling off of computer monitors. His current roommate is an overly aggressive cat that attacks anything that moves, and they have frequent confrontations.

    Another cat I know and just took care of keeps to itself until it gets to know you, at which point it only wants to be petted and fed, both of which it responds very positively to. The two dogs it lives with are different too - a mother and a baby dog. The mother dog will shove the baby dog out of the way to get attention. She's not a mean dog, but very insistent. And very whiny when she doesn't get what she wants. Also more trusting - the younger dog is very mistrusting of strangers but once it gets to know you it's very quietly friendly - doesn't make a big deal about the mother trying to get all the attention.

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    That said, I wonder the same thing about rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    That said, I wonder the same thing about rocks.
    I'm not sure what part of this you consider absurd, but I don't think it absurd to suggest that animals have personalities, and that these personalities might be mappable in a similar way to how Socionics attempts to map human personalities. It doesn't necessarily have to be Socionics (if Socionics did turn out to apply, that would be very interesting results, but it could be just as easily something different). If you think animals don't even have personalities, then we're not going to agree about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    I'm not sure what part of this you consider absurd, but I don't think it absurd to suggest that animals have personalities, and that these personalities might be mappable in a similar way to how Socionics attempts to map human personalities. It doesn't necessarily have to be Socionics (if Socionics did turn out to apply, that would be very interesting results, but it could be just as easily something different). If you think animals don't even have personalities, then we're not going to agree about this.
    The practical applications of determining the Socionics type of an animal's personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    The practical applications of determining the Socionics type of an animal's personality.
    It would imply there's a universal nature to personality. Perhaps it would provide a stepping stone to help psychologists develop more advanced theories. Perhaps one could use it as a guide for pet selection so as not to set up humans with pets with extremely incompatible personalities. Or so that humans don't get two pets that will fight all the time, like the cats I mentioned. Maybe dog-ILIs are particularly bad seeing-eye dogs, and you could filter them out when drafting dogs. I'm sure we'd come up with a bunch of other things too. I think the most important part is just figuring out if it works, if only for the interest factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    It would imply there's a universal nature to personality. Perhaps it would provide a stepping stone to help psychologists develop more advanced theories. Perhaps one could use it as a guide for pet selection so as not to set up humans with pets with extremely incompatible personalities. Or so that humans don't get two pets that will fight all the time, like the cats I mentioned. Maybe dog-ILIs are particularly bad seeing-eye dogs, and you could filter them out when drafting dogs. I'm sure we'd come up with a bunch of other things too. I think the most important part is just figuring out if it works, if only for the interest factor.
    Socionics is then just a needless extra step. It is not needed to study a universal nature of personality in animals. Instead of filtering seeing-eye dogs via Socionics type, it is much easier to just observe them and breed accordingly to reinforce the strong traits that allow them to be good seeing-eye dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Socionics is then just a needless extra step. It is not needed to study a universal nature of personality in animals. Instead of filtering seeing-eye dogs via Socionics type, it is much easier to just observe them and breed accordingly to reinforce the strong traits that allow them to be good seeing-eye dogs.
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    For Pets i only had a cat (when i was a small) and two dobermans (both now gone).

    I never meant to imply that animals perceived the world throgh some 'watered down' version of model-a but rather that animals may favour one or two of the functions as a predominant way of relating to the world.

    Its not far fetched. Genetically we are ridiculously close and anyone who has spent time with animlas can't fail to see the behavioural parallels. Take away language and we're not that difererent. Main thing that distinguishes us from animals is "advanced memory functions" and "consideration of what the other guy knows or doesn't".... the rest is kinda secondary. Take those two away and cave of full of naked monkeys would behave very little different from a cave full of naked business people ... i invite anyone here (without rocks in their heads) to prove me wrong.

    Back to the topic.....

    If i had to pick (according to model-A) my dobermans were definately ESFP .... Fi in the creative chanel but with an indomitable will ... to take over my life, my bed etc.

    As for my cat i'd have to say ISTP, an ever present search for the cosiest spot to rest at any given time and Fe PoLR

    So i tend to think most dogs are ESFP and most cats ISTP. Anyone got other ideas ?
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    Male cats are ISTp
    Female cats are ISFp

    Dogs are ESxj

    Lions are ESTp

    Wolves are mostly grey

    Hippos are ISFp

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    rofl, I've typed my cat as SLI and he's male
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    I swear to god my two dogs are SEE and LSI. I think dogs are intelligent enough to have types.

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    If a species of animal, like a lion for instance, where really "mostly" ESTp, it would suck to be the lucky one and get INFj. It would be rather fun to be an ISFj and then supervise them all. Actually I might as well change my professional title to dog supervisor. It's not really all that hard, and I think there is some truth to it. I have two at home.

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    dogs are LSI, cats are LII
    Actually my old dog might've been SLE. She wanted me to throw the ball for her ALL THE TIME, and she would never get tired. I felt supervised.
    Here's a picture:

    does she VI like an SLE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fear of sleep View Post
    dogs are LSI, cats are LII
    Actually my old dog might've been SLE. She wanted me to throw the ball for her ALL THE TIME, and she would never get tired. I felt supervised.
    Here's a picture:

    does she VI like an SLE?
    Ahh that is surely an LIE!!

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    lol it's the only picture I have of her and she looks really vicious in it. It was during one of our tennis ball fights, but normally she's really sweet .
    The saddest ESFj

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    Quote Originally Posted by fear of sleep View Post
    dogs are LSI
    I can see that (non-sarcastic tone).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
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    Male cats are ISTp
    Female cats are ISFp

    Dogs are ESxj

    Lions are ESTp

    Wolves are mostly grey

    Hippos are ISFp

    Dave Batista "the animal" is ESTp

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    No cat has ever been ISTP.
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    If that animal were a type, its leading functions would be and :badassery:
    Just look at its cold, calculating stare...

    I even thing hes flipping the photographer the tentacly middle finger on the right of the photo!
    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    So i tend to think most dogs are ESFPs
    Depends on the dog breed and training, but I think the usual loveable and active dog is ESFP.
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