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    alphas really fucking piss me off. At first, getting close to them might seem like a good idea, but then they end up shitting all over everything and making you miserable at every turn. Stay away while you still can

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    will do
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    Uh oh, I feel a bowel movement coming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Uh oh, I feel a bowel movement coming...

    Ahhhhh
    Se has that effect on Alphas.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    When an ENTp says he'll call you, he won't.

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    hahah agreed warlord. It's so funny. Alphas think they can talk down to us to us like we aren't going to do anything, but then we respond by showing them what REAL CONFIDENCE IN CONFRONTATION is all about, and they get this look on their face like
    "omg!!! wtf, is he serious?? i'm so scared!! i thought we were friends!!" and then they bow down and start kissing your ass like they should have been all along.... ha ha ha.

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    Alphas are the scum of the earth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodrat View Post
    alphas really fucking piss me off. At first, getting close to them might seem like a good idea, but then they end up shitting all over everything and making you miserable at every turn. Stay away while you still can
    Would you mind sharing your experiences in that regard?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoodrat View Post
    hahah agreed warlord. It's so funny. Alphas think they can talk down to us to us like we aren't going to do anything, but then we respond by showing them what REAL CONFIDENCE IN CONFRONTATION is all about, and they get this look on their face like
    "omg!!! wtf, is he serious?? i'm so scared!! i thought we were friends!!" and then they bow down and start kissing your ass like they should have been all along.... ha ha ha.
    Talk down to you? What do you think you are doing now to Alpha?

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    Beta will win in the end! It's okay if Gamma takes care of Alpha first.

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    Oh my goodness I'm such an ass-kisser! You know me so well, Se is so overwhelming! What am I to do? I'm so sorry I posted in your thread. I've been adequately reprimanded. Just, no more Se.

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    LOL!

    Oh, and I'm the leader of Alphas!!
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    When an ENTp says he'll call you, he won't.
    In defense of some ENTp's: If I say I am going to do something, I do it. I don't go back on what I say like that.
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    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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    "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    LOL!

    Oh, and I'm the leader of Alphas!!
    That's because you're a Beta! We've already infiltrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's because you're a Beta! We've already infiltrated.
    Read my signature!
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    When an ENTp says he'll call you, he won't.
    Not in my experience, but then again, I have learned to distinguish between "When a friend says he'll call you" and "When an acquaintance says he'll call you", and not so much "When Type X says he'll call you..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    Read my signature!
    I lost my eyes in an unfortunate accident!

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    it said something about deltas
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    leave us deltas alone.
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

    - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    LOL!

    Oh, and I'm the leader of Alphas!!
    Alphas have no leaders. :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Alphas have no leaders. :wink:
    But every group has a leader, it is human nature! Even if I am not the "one" someone does need to step up to the plate and show those gammas that we are not a bunch of weaklings that crumble in the face of ! We are deep behind enemy lines! ALPHAS UNITE!!!
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    But every group has a leader, it is human nature! Even if I am not the "one" someone does need to step up to the plate and show those gammas that we are not a bunch of weaklings that crumble in the face of ! We are deep behind enemy lines! ALPHAS UNITE!!!
    I know you're joking, but this is a very anti-Alpha idea. All the Beta STs who like ordering people around may think they have power over us, but their power is tied to the organizations that mediate it. Alphas "win" by simply leaving the organization, rather than trying to take it over - who cares who gets to be "leader"?

    With Gamma SFs it's different. Their power is mediated by relationships, so Alpha NTs are helpless to understand/respond to it. That's why Alpha SFs are so good at diffusing paranoia about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I know you're joking, but this is a very anti-Alpha idea. All the Beta STs who like ordering people around may think they have power over us, but their power is tied to the organizations that mediate it. Alphas "win" by simply leaving the organization, rather than trying to take it over - who cares who gets to be "leader"?

    With Gamma SFs it's different. Their power is mediated by relationships, so Alpha NTs are helpless to understand/respond to it. That's why Alpha SFs are so good at diffusing paranoia about it.
    Do you have no passion?! And as a side note, what if the organization means so much to an alpha, that he or she cannot just walk away to become some refugee, when the right thing to do is to fight and or compete?
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    I'm going to have to side with THA on this one. It's my general inclination to rebel against anyone who claims to be my leader. I might speak for the group or move to action when I feel like things aren't moving fast enough, but any kind of actual clearcut position would automatically make me rebel and turn away. On principle, really.
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    Okay, so in another words, if a system is not suitable, Alphas tend to divest from it. I could certainly relate to that.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    Yes, but it's the fact that, to Alphas, the organization itself is less important than the idea it was meant to represent. The organization may die, but the idea will live on - you cannot destroy an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Yes, but it's the fact that, to Alphas, the organization itself is less important than the idea it was meant to represent. The organization may die, but the idea will live on - you cannot destroy an idea.
    Yes, that is what I was thinking.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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    "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    But every group has a leader, it is human nature!
    So, just don't form groups. I like the song "Here I go again" from Whitesnake as an example of an attitude I endorse.
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    I liked the "like they should have been doing all along" part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    I doubt if anyone would actually willingly submit to a collective consciousness, but this subordination is more along the lines of knowing your place in a power structure (whether because you can't do anything about it, or because you believe there's individual benefit in being part of a hierarchy). Anyway, it's actually a fairly benign kind of subordination, but it's death to deltas (esp. ISTps/ENFps).

    There's also the alternative, that you choose to create your own power structure as a leader... it's not necessarily the question of outright submission to an existing structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I know you're joking, but this is a very anti-Alpha idea. All the Beta STs who like ordering people around may think they have power over us, but their power is tied to the organizations that mediate it. Alphas "win" by simply leaving the organization, rather than trying to take it over - who cares who gets to be "leader"?
    QFT. wow this is spot on alpha. when i am done with an organization i typically just leave. but my ideas have infused themselves wherever i have worked and they live on. my last 3 jobs have been like this...i've set up systems, procedures, programs, set the tone of the clinical work, all of which lives on to this day in all three organizations. not to be self important, but i have had a profound influence on my field in my area through my full time work and through teaching at the university.

    but, sadly, this is why alphas don't get credit for their work. because we leave. and other people although they can see that the idea still blossoms and gives fruit, their attention is focused on who is running what at that particular time. and yeah, we don't usually run organizations...i guess we infiltrate them and plant the seeds that become the plants that truly represent the product (and process) of the organization. and when these plants die, we return to plant new ones....and they take over.

    ah well i guess we don't really value power and recognition so much, at least in the present. history books always eventually credit the planters of seeds though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    So, just don't form groups. I like the song "Here I go again" from Whitesnake as an example of an attitude I endorse.
    hahahhahahahhaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Would you mind sharing your experiences in that regard?

    Talk down to you? What do you think you are doing now to Alpha?
    yeah i think alphas dont talk down to them, they just talk like everyone is the same. Se polr anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    When an ENTp says he'll call you, he won't.
    Probably because he thinks you're annoying, discojoe
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    if we didnt have alphas we'd be living in a spiritual dictatorship. we also probably wouldnt have computers, because intps would just imagine the possibility of a computer and leave it at that. maybe talk a bit about how a computer could theoretically work.
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    ..he did not invent the computer, he produced and marketed the computer.
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    hahah agreed warlord. It's so funny. Alphas think they can talk down to us to us like we aren't going to do anything, but then we respond by showing them what REAL CONFIDENCE IN CONFRONTATION is all about, and they get this look on their face like
    "omg!!! wtf, is he serious?? i'm so scared!! i thought we were friends!!" and then they bow down and start kissing your ass like they should have been all along.... ha ha ha.
    I could so kick your ass. Why don't you try picking on somebody my own size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington View Post
    hahahhahahahhaha
    I thought that Whitesnake quote was hilarious too! You beat me to it
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