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    Someone has told me this.

    And this:
    ...it sounds to me like you are only able to value your strengths...and dont really seem to be able to appreciate how others are, although it might be different from you...
    What does this imply or suggest in socionics terms? Types, functions, quadras?
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    Nothing. Except maybe that the person who said this is an ethical type.

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    did you tell some girl she had a fat ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Nothing. Except maybe that the person who said this is an ethical type.
    How do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    How do you know?
    what do you mean?

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    Are you two going to get into it again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    How do you know?
    what do you mean?
    LOL
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Were you socialized properly and around a wide variety of people- I mean a really variety of people and their complex groups, how they respond individuality. That's usually where not respecting & appreciating differences come from. I don't know if there is a function or type that correlates with that though.

    But yeah man it obviously isn't all that cool if you wanna be in true power in life, in order to manipulate others better you kinda got to speak on their level while still having your own thing. That's what makes people respect you.

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    WP appreciates my difference.

    he's cool.
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    Who gives a shit. There's always more fish in the sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    what do you mean?
    How do you know that said person is an ethical type? I thought that the question was fairly clear.
    Last edited by Logos; 07-15-2008 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    How do you know that said person is an ethical type? I thought that the question was fairly clear.
    I never said I know I said MAYBE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I never said I know I said MAYBE
    Then why do you MAYBE think that the person is an ethical type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    What does this imply or suggest in socionics terms? Types, functions, quadras?
    In my eyes, it implies weak Ne. Basically, you're showing a lack of interest in or concern for the potentiality of others, based on the premise that you're uninterested in what they are if it is different from yourself (and hence you will be uninterested in what they could be if it is different from yourself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    In my eyes, it implies weak Ne. Basically, you're showing a lack of interest in or concern for the potentiality of others, based on the premise that you're uninterested in what they are if it is different from yourself (and hence you will be uninterested in what they could be if it is different from yourself).
    Would this indicate that this person does not value Ne, then? (besides being weak in it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    In my eyes, it implies weak Ne. Basically, you're showing a lack of interest in or concern for the potentiality of others, based on the premise that you're uninterested in what they are if it is different from yourself (and hence you will be uninterested in what they could be if it is different from yourself).
    That makes a lot of sense. Would you also say that it would be more applicable to types with unvalued Ne than those with weak but valued Ne? Or just weak Ne in general?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    What does this imply or suggest in socionics terms? Types, functions, quadras?
    You is bad person, yes?

    I'm inclined to agree with ezra on it being weak Ne. Whether it's valued or not is harder. Is this something you would want help with or would it drive you bat shit crazy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    You is bad person, yes?
    From my POV, the one who's bullshit-feeding me with this is a bad person.

    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with ezra on it being weak Ne. Whether it's valued or not is harder. Is this something you would want help with or would it drive you bat shit crazy?
    Where did I say that I agree with it in the first place? Eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    From my POV, the one who's bullshit-feeding me with this is a bad person.
    Wouldn't this show that you don't value Ne then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Where did I say that I agree with it in the first place? Eh?
    Well, the person seems to be critiquing you from an Ne perspective, I'd say. How true you think it is about yourself is one issue. How constructive the critique was in terms of it pissing you off is another. Also, do you enjoy double decker tacos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    How constructive the critique was in terms of it pissing you off is another.
    Not very, I 'd say.

    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Also, do you enjoy double decker tacos?
    Are you testing my reaction to Ne (- jumping) and Ne/Si valuing? Smartass. And yes, double decker tacos are nice. I also enjoy double decker threesomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Are you testing my reaction to Ne (- jumping) and Ne/Si valuing? Smartass. And yes, double decker tacos are nice. I also enjoy double decker threesomes.
    Double decker taco dual-seeking. It sounds like you just can't enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    It sounds like you just can't enough!
    You forgot "get".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    You forgot "get".
    You and your little inconsequential details, always wanting sentences to make sense. Who does that anyway???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    How do you know that said person is an ethical type? I thought that the question was fairly clear.
    i meant the quote, doesn;t matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    You and your little inconsequential details, always wanting sentences to make sense. Who does that anyway???
    Don't you appreciate my differences?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Don't you appreciate my differences?
    I hope a gorilla molests you and you die.



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    My gut reaction when I read this was weak Ne and Fi. I guess I could see arguments for either weak Ne and Fi or weak Ni and Fe causing it, so I don't really know. Then again I'm generally to inclined that too much weight is put on the super-ego functions being responsible for things instead of the super-id functions, but again I'm not confident enough in that to argue it. Something I'm working on in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I hope a gorilla molests you and you die.
    Thank you for the kind wishes, sir.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    Would this indicate that this person does not value Ne, then? (besides being weak in it)
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Would you also say that it would be more applicable to types with unvalued Ne than those with weak but valued Ne? Or just weak Ne in general?
    If you make an active attempt to either remove this negative aspect from your personality or start taking on board that other people are different, Winterpark, it's probably a good sign that you have a problem with your weak Ne, and want to improve it. If, however, you're quite content with your own set of preferences and certainly don't and will never care for what others think (like I do), then it's likely that you have Ne in the super-ego.

    That's my opinion, at least. I could be wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Don't you appreciate my differences?
    Who does? You're a mutation of a human being; a danger to yourself and to society. Your differences are the bane of existence. Henceforth, you shall be subjugated and lashed four-and-twenty score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If you make an active attempt to either remove this negative aspect from your personality or start taking on board that other people are different, Winterpark, it's probably a good sign that you have a problem with your weak Ne, and want to improve it. If, however, you're quite content with your own set of preferences and certainly don't and will never care for what others think (like I do), then it's likely that you have Ne in the super-ego.

    That's my opinion, at least. I could be wrong.
    Thanks. I see where you're coming from.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Who does? You're a mutation of a human being; a danger to yourself and to society. Your differences are the bane of existence. Henceforth, you shall be subjugated and lashed four-and-twenty score.

    ONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    I haven't seen that face before, I swear, hahahaha.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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