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    I think anyway.

    Boyd Coddington from American Hot Rod (reality show on TLC in the US) and his wife.



    Has anyone seen this show? What do you think?
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    I haven't seen this show

    But I've seen another TV portrayal of ENFj-ISTj duality, the BBC mini-series Gunpowder, Treason, & Plot .

    King James I and Queen Anne are portrayed as ENFj and ISTj, respectively.


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    I think anyway.

    Boyd Coddington from American Hot Rod (reality show on TLC in the US) and his wife.



    Has anyone seen this show? What do you think?
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    Hello, just wanted to know if anyone knows any EIE/LSI dual movies?
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    I don't know of any, but movies with Beta characters and themes were discussed in this thread; you might find one there.

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    Eh. Rukia and Ichigo maybe. From bleach, a japanese anime.

    Ichigo might be Ti ESTp.

    But I find that Rukia is probably an ENFj.
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    Maybe The American President?

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    Ok, this is how it usually goes:



    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Ok, this is how it usually goes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VSuCtebBT0

    wp, do you really think they are ENFj and ISTj, he and her respectively? or are you joking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    wp, do you really think they are ENFj and ISTj, he and her respectively? or are you joking?
    I was basically joking (obviously) but I do think those are their types. The movie had a shitload of Fe and Beta duality seems like a perfect fit for them.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    I was basically joking (obviously) but I do think those are their types. The movie had a shitload of Fe and Beta duality seems like a perfect fit for them.
    yeah, i thought you were probably joking. you know me, i had to check though.

    i'm so close to figuring out my type.......at least i know i'm beta now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmmama View Post
    yeah, i thought you were probably joking. you know me, i had to check though.
    Well, I was only joking in regards to the specific thread topic so you couldn't have known whether I was joking about their types or not, so your question was in place.

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    i'm so close to figuring out my type.......at least i know i'm beta now.
    That's cool. I just hope you didn't come to that conclusion just by identifying with that movie though.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    Well, I was only joking in regards to the specific thread topic so you couldn't have known whether I was joking about their types or not, so your question was in place.



    That's cool. I just hope you didn't come to that conclusion just by identifying with that movie though.
    thanks sweetie,

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    They hid under the table, Hermione wore a pretty white dress, covered in frills and her hair done up. Draco wore black formal robes, not dress robes, the ones that were slightly less formal but still suitable for weddings.

    "Her dress is ugly!" the grey eyed boy said with disdain.

    "So is her guy," Hermione giggled.

    "If I ever get married..."

    "You'll say no at the alter," Hermione finished, "What would you grow up to be?"

    "A tyrant," Draco said excitedly. "With a harem, slaves and torture every Thursday!"

    "Cool, I would like to be a cream puff, I know it's dumb," the young girl said looking down at her knees. She looked up again her expression changed into a smile, "Go on,"

    Draco sighed resignedly as he stood up and undone his robe pants, "Not bad, that's why men earn more than women?"

    Draco perked up, "Good workers have good tools," he bragged, "Now show me yours," Hermione pulled up her dress, "I can't see anything," Draco complained.

    "See, women are smarter than men," she said with an air of authority.

    Draco leaned in, Hermione leaned in too, they were two inches apart when, "We should just be friends," Hermione whispered pulling off the table cloth and making all the cups and the plates fall onto the floor. Draco joined in and helped, and the cake came crashing down too.

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    Draco is probably EIE, but Hermione is LIE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Nah draco is LSI, and Hermione is EIE. You should see the whole movie if you don't believe me.
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    this is from that french movie? I would say beta activity. she's IEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    Nah draco is LSI, and Hermione is EIE. You should see the whole movie if you don't believe me.
    No effing way. Hermione is LIE-Ni 3w2, Draco is EIE-Ni 3w4. At least in the books, which are the real origin of those characters. Other interpretations from French porn reproductions are irrelevant.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    It's not from the book. The guy who written this just gave them random names. It's from the movie which WAS NOT created according to any book. I don't know what book you are talking about. And you seem to be arguing just for the sake of arguing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by matilda View Post
    this is from that french movie? I would say beta activity. she's IEI
    Yup! Yeah I thought beta activity too. But that he is SLE and she is EIE and only in the beginning. Later I decided they were duals. But one I am sure of - they are both betas. Girl NF, boy ST.
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    Sincerely Yours,

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    It's not from the book. The guy who written this just gave them random names. It's from the movie which WAS NOT created according to any book. I don't know what book you are talking about. And you seem to be arguing just for the sake of arguing....
    You could've put "NOT HARRY POTTER" somewhere in the OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    You could've put "NOT HARRY POTTER" somewhere in the OP
    LOL yeah, I haven't even thought about Harry Potter while writing this post.
    And George should have not started to spread misleading information if he doesn't remember reading the exact same scenario in the Harry Potter book. Because the scenario I posted sounds 100% beta. And declaring it's from Harry Potter just because of the same names is a sign that Gilly just really wanted to argue with me.
    Gilly, next time when you think about something and want to say it out loud, make sure your thoughts are right... I noticed you making this mistake in both personal and public affairs.
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    You cannot feel love.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Draco and Hermione are not exactly common names, either one of them, so I think my mistake is understandable. I did not just want to argue. But I will, if that's what you'd like.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    You cannot feel love.
    And your love is temporary and weak.
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    Only when it's unrequited.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Only when it's unrequited.
    Everything comes with time.
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    Watch out Gilly, It's a trap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Watch out Gilly, It's a trap!
    Eh...What do you really know about traps...
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    Woe is me...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    Eh...What do you really know about traps...
    omg lol
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Is this the third world legal reproduction of Harry Potter lmao. Only the czar can use magic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    And George should have not started to spread misleading information if he doesn't remember reading the exact same scenario in the Harry Potter book.
    i assumed it was fanfiction lol. it's hard to believe the names are just random.

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    Right?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    No effing way. Hermione is LIE-Ni 3w2, Draco is EIE-Ni 3w4. At least in the books, which are the real origin of those characters. Other interpretations from French porn reproductions are irrelevant.
    Hermione is in no way image-conscious -- she's just a prissy perfectionist know-it-all. LIE-Ti 1w2 so/sx.

    Draco is SLE-Se (EIE-Se is possible), and indeed 3w4.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Hermione is in no way image-conscious -- she's just a prissy perfectionist know-it-all. LIE-Ti 1w2 so/sx.

    Draco is SLE-Se (EIE-Se is possible), and indeed 3w4.
    No way is Draco SLE. His father probably is, but Draco is a pretty obvious p-sub EIE, IMO.

    Hermione could be a 1, I suppose, but she always seemed Assertive triad to me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Lucius Malfoy is an awesome LSI-Te.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Draco and Hermione are not exactly common names, either one of them, so I think my mistake is understandable.
    seriously!! I thought the same thing.
    IEI-Fe 4w3

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