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    I'm not so sure it has anything to do with subtype but perhaps. What do you mean about reading your subtype?

    I have been thinking about this a lot lately actually; I'll write more later. Regardless of how you identify with written descriptions, being around groups of predominantly one quadra can be very telling in terms of how you relate to them.

    My opposing quadra seems the most psychologically foreign to me. That does not mean they are bad people of course, but that their motivations and implied values are different than mine. For example, I cannot "relax" or enjoy myself as easily as betas do, when they are doing what they want to do. Then again, my idea of relaxing and enjoying myself is also different.

    Just to be clear, it is not a matter of socializing or, as I have said before, playing games and competing or whatever. It's how it's done, and in some ways why it's done that prevents me from enjoying it. One element is the Fe-group thing. It is somewhat described on the wikisocion, but generally it is about how if a beta group invites you to do something, you're supposed to do it because it is a group acceptance thing. They then get disappointed if you don't do it, and suppose you don't like them - where as, the whole time, my intention is to simply do what I want to do, all the time (and that is the case independent of the group). That is a very rough-and-ready way of describing it, but it is small pieces of the puzzle like that which start fitting together over time and confirming your quadra relations.
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    Quite simply, I don't relate to Alpha. Neither their defocused nor their unproductive attitude to life. They're light-hearted and fun-loving individuals; the very opposite of me, haha.

    Beta - my own quadra, so I clearly relate well.

    Gamma - obviously, there's been the struggle between Beta/Gamma in determining my quadra and thus my type (SLE or SEE). I relate to a lot of Gamma, mainly their non-group attitude to life.

    Delta - I relate to the extent that I kind of do end up liking Deltas because I want to keep the peace between opposing quadras. I feel that if I can conquer liking Deltas and having that reciprocation, I can do anything regarding relationships.

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    Ezra you're SLE.

    No shit about that.

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    some times/parts of me relate to all of them

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    I don't like Beta quadra and I seem to completely not even notice Gammas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    I don't like Beta quadra and I seem to completely not even notice Gammas.
    I agree with you too much, Loki, haha. I was just going to say this.

    The only two quadras I seem to even take notice of are Beta and Delta...the others seem to fade into the background, I dont have much opinion on them. Beta strikes me as very chaotic and offensive. Yes...when I think of Beta, I immediately think "offensive". Don't get me wrong, they have likeable qualities but I don't find myself meshing very well with any type in that quadra.

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    I agree with the connection you've made between subtypes and quadra preferences. I am most certainly a delta NF, I relate both to INFj-Ne and to ENFp-Ne but I'm most likely a more intuitive INFj.

    Reading the descriptions of quadras I would have to say that delta is the only one that describes my true self. This is how I regard other quadras:

    Alpha – I can relate to the descriptions more than beta and gamma but I have an aversion from their Fe Ti aspects. In real life we get along fine and adapt to this difference relatively well, I feel relaxed and comfortable around alphas. (it's a little bit harder with my INTj-Ti friend though)

    Beta - I have a real hard time relating to what's going on in there.

    Gamma – The descriptions just sound way too stuffy for me. I have gammas in my family and I always have to hold back around them and tone down, and that mostly inhibits me. It's ok for short periods of time but if I hang around them too much I accumulate energy that I have to get out, it feels like I can't have my fun around them or truly be me.

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    Beta is cool except for the whole dom/sub thing

    I admire Delta but couldn't live their lives

    Gamma just seems retarded (no offense)
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