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    This is a true story, 100%.

    A guy I used to work with in Belgium was driving on the faster lane of the motorway. A car came very close from behind -- you know, as if wanting him to mske way. Instead of letting them pass, he accelerated. The other car also accelerated. Then he thought the other car wanted to race him, so he kept driving faster and let the other car try to catch up with him. This went on for a while, and he was having fun -- until suddenly the other car revealed that they were the police. Since by then he had been driving waaaaaay over the 120Km/h speed limit, he got a huge fine.


    So, what was going on there? Anyone relate? Any suggestion as to the functions involved?
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    That exact same thing happened to a friend of mine when she was 16. She was going the speed limit, but a policeman tailgated her until she started speeding up. I'm not sure if the car was unmarked or not, because it was late at night. Then once she was far enough over the limit, he ticketed her. I'm pretty sure that is illegal, but of course she didn't know that at the time.

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    I love slamming on my brakes going 65mph when people tailgate me. If they go flying into the ditch, it's not my fault. I frequently do this.

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    I've heard that in Denmark, people wait patiently en masse for the pedestrian signal to turn green, even when there are no cars about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I've heard that in Denmark, people wait patiently en masse for the pedestrian signal to turn green, even when there are no cars about.
    Many people in Germany do this too, especially in middle-sized towns.
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    The person in the lead car probably saw the approach as a personal threat.

    "Oh, you want to challenge me? You have the audacity to challenge me? Fuck you."

    But the temporary rush of adrenaline and the outright defense of insecurity blinded him and taking it on so personally blinded him to the potential.

    I'd probably guess that under normal circumstances this person understands these potentials. If anything, I'd say that the driver in front probably saw some (territorial threat) and made a rash decision to not back down from the threat eta: and it characterized the person making the territorial threat, but it caused a blind spot in an otherwise healthy sight of potentials ()
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    But the thing is, he thought they wanted to race him for fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    But the thing is, he thought they wanted to race him for fun.
    But it sounded like it wasn't "fun" until they were already well into the high speed territory.

    I'm talking about the initial contact.

    And even if the person's mindset was to race for fun, what is he responding to? It's still a response to a challenge.
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    ? He shoulda just got over like a normal person. if you're gonna race someone over the speed limit, you're gonna get a ticket.
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    Although I suppose that if the situation was somewhat lighthearted... let me think about that for a sec.

    Car approaches from behind, the guy would probably think "Hey, all right! This guy wants to have some fun! All right, let's do this!"

    Hmm. He's welcoming an "invitation" that was never there. I suppose if he had the foresight of what was about to take place, he knew that he would get the rush of competition.

    I guess in that case it's maybe a bit of and ... maybe sort of responding to an request?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    ? He shoulda just got over like a normal person. if you're gonna race someone over the speed limit, you're gonna get a ticket.
    Where's the fun in that?!

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    @tereg: Yeah. Only, I think that the guy's problem was a susceptibility to from others. To suddenly do something fun at someone else's prompting, "improving" on what you're doing, suggests that to me. The guy was a clear ISFp.
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    i could see an SEE racing another car for fun.... not sure why
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Where's the fun in that?!
    The fun is in keeping your $100 instead of getting ticketed. I'm not against fun but honestly.

    (dumb SEI....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    @tereg: Yeah. Only, I think that the guy's problem was a susceptibility to from others. To suddenly do something fun at someone else's prompting, "improving" on what you're doing, suggests that to me. The guy was a clear ISFp.
    What I'm finding interesting is, let's say the car behind wasn't a police car, but someone who rapidly approached the car in the way I suggested above. Maybe someone agitated that they're traveling much slower, so forcing them to make a decision by declaring their presence.

    The guy might still have interpreted that as an invitation to race, which is to say that he wouldn't have taken the back car's intent for what it was meant to be. The dude behind is agitated and suddenly sees a response, but not because the dude in front was threatened.

    Basically I'm just seeing a case here where a possible intended IM ends up being read as something completely different by another person, but the end result ends up being, I guess something in which in this hypothetical the participants are somewhat "positive" -- the guy behind got the guy to move, the guy in front wants to race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    The fun is in keeping your $100 instead of getting ticketed. I'm not against fun but honestly.

    (dumb SEI....)
    Last ticket i got costed me $275.00....for illegally passing on the shoulder. I dont think i've ever payed under 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    What I'm finding interesting is, let's say the car behind wasn't a police car, but someone who rapidly approached the car in the way I suggested above. Maybe someone agitated that they're traveling much slower, so forcing them to make a decision by declaring their presence.

    The guy might still have interpreted that as an invitation to race, which is to say that he wouldn't have taken the back car's intent for what it was meant to be. The dude behind is agitated and suddenly sees a response, but not because the dude in front was threatened.

    Basically I'm just seeing a case here where a possible intended IM ends up being read as something completely different by another person, but the end result ends up being, I guess something in which in this hypothetical the participants are somewhat "positive" -- the guy behind got the guy to move, the guy in front wants to race.
    I'm guessing that there was something that led the guy to intepret their actions as "playful" rather than "aggressive".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Last ticket i got costed me $275.00....for illegally passing on the shoulder. I dont think i've ever payed under 100.
    Shows how long it's been since I got a ticket. I think my last ticket was $75 in 1993?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I've heard that in Denmark, people wait patiently en masse for the pedestrian signal to turn green, even when there are no cars about.
    Expat does that himself.

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    Initial Reaction: SEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    But the thing is, he thought they wanted to race him for fun.
    seems Se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Last ticket i got costed me $275.00....for illegally passing on the shoulder. I dont think i've ever payed under 100.
    rofl, you are SO not my dual; I'm pretty sure we would both end up dead if we ever decided to hang out together.

    ...It would be a hell of a good time though


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    Yeah gilly we can even hit up some pedestrians if you're into that sort of thing!

    I actually did really good with not getting any tickets for about a year and them bam, i get three in a one month time frame. Never speed in construction zones. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    So, what was going on there? Anyone relate? Any suggestion as to the functions involved?
    Maybe strong (and/or valued) Se to some extent. But for the most part I would relate it to a certain bunch of people whose mentality I don't respect much.
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    Male insecurities? Didn't wanna feel like a bitch by giving in. Drivers are stupid, I see that all the time. That would obviously be though, wouldn't it? Even though he was having fun, that just reeks of insecurity to me.

    I'm just as bad sometimes. I drive a small white car ('02 mazda protege) and sometimes assholes in those redneck big trucks think they can have their way with me, and it pisses me off. I'm not going to drive a fucking small penis syndrome thing though, thanks.

    It's sad how men feel like they have to do stupid things to well, feel like a man. I think that's what it was. I saw these 5 teenage punks today, all gay porn starred-out and they tried to look all bad-ass but you could easily tell they just thought too much about what other people thought of them.

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