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    Default Tolerance Thresholds

    ENTps are supposed to pursue things in front of them or in their head while forgetting about their bodies, like explorers in some cold place who continue even though their limbs are falling off due to frostbite.

    ISFps would ideally like to go on such pursuits, but they are grounded more in their bodies somewhat. Both ISFps and ENTps like to chill and explore new things, so it isn't necessarily surprising when, for example, an ENTp tells a ISFp to relax and stop getting so stressed, or for an ISFp to inspire a new venture for an ENTp.

    In the wikisocion pages, the ISFp Si Ego description says that ISFps often feel they are in a hurry, and must do everything at once. This could be a good description of an ENTp's Ne too. Both types are able to make each other relax, it's not just a thing, and both types are able to help the other prioritize. They both find each other interesting, and do not consider each other's advice irritating or painful. The result is lots of children.

    INTjs are supposed to be all logical, you know. But ESFjs often seem to make good sense, you know. ESFjs are capable of intuiting how INTjs feel so that the INTjs needn't reveal too much about themselves, and INTjs are able to get a good gist of what the ESFjs mean to say. They can speak passionately about things and not get tired or scared of each other - it is all good-natured, and can be both serious and light-hearted. ESFjs are supposed to be good with people, but they can also feel lonely or uncared for when they are socialising. They paradoxically, perhaps, enjoy the quieter company of an INTj, and the INTj would certainly prefer to be with an ESFj in a social setting. INTjs can attempt to cope in a social setting, and may do quite well, but if they miss a minor turn in mood and fail to match it, they often find themselves lost for words or even cruelly neglected while others talk too loudly or incomprehensibly. (If others start talking about personal matters, an INTj may be able to maintain a conversation, but during such conversations, an INTj will pine for an ESFj - INTjs don't really like to talk about specific personal details or the private lives of others, causing them to talk abstractedly - they realise this will be unacceptable, so they may withdraw before massive fail). INTjs don't neccesarily mind mindless twittering, it just seems to be extremely problematic and potentially a waste of time. Also, ESFjs like to say things from the heart, which means they may be at a loss to be completely logically coherent all the time. Which is why an INTj and ESFj make such a good team together and have lots of children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    In the wikisocion pages, the ISFp Si Ego description says that ISFps often feel they are in a hurry, and must do everything at once. This could be a good description of an ENTp's Ne too. Both types are able to make each other relax, it's not just a thing, and both types are able to help the other prioritize.
    That's a truism that's not often recognised. Just because you're Si-dominant doesn't mean you find it easy to relax all the time. I often get frustrated with feeling like I have to do everything at once, and end up jumping from one thing to another and back again.

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    ENTps and ISFps have lots of children because they find each other interesting and do not consider each other's advice irritating or painful??

    INTj's and ESFj's have lots of children because they have completely different styles of communication but don't necessarily mind each other??

    Those are stupid reasons to have lots of children.
    Au contraire, they are excellent reasons, my dear. You need to grow up a little. :-P
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    I like children.

    I wanna get one with a expansion pack.
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    Who doesn't like icing on their cake?
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    Each type in a dual pair appreciates the other type in the dual pair.

    Some say opposites attract, others say birds of a feather flock together.

    A door and a doorframe complement each other, though they are also different.

    INTjs and ESFjs are different to each other, but if an INTj is described as being inclined to seriousness, then ESFjs must appreciate this in equal degree. To match this, they are also equally serious. Though perhaps an introvert being serious is more pronounced and seemingly more unhealthy than an extrovert being serious. ESFjs in descriptions are descibed as lovers of life, though it is clear that INTjs are the same in their own way. ESFjs are supposed to stand up for those who are suffering injustice...and INTjs too, in their own way. So you can see how each line in a type description should theoretically match a line in that type's dual description, and hence how the dual types tolerate each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post


    ENTps and ISFps have lots of children because they find each other interesting and do not consider each other's advice irritating or painful??

    Those are stupid reasons to have lots of children.
    Works for me. I also think it's due to our overall hotness, ISFPs desire for children and sex, and ENTPs desire for sex and small minions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Each type in a dual pair appreciates the other type in the dual pair.

    Some say opposites attract, others say birds of a feather flock together.

    A door and a doorframe complement each other, though they are also different.

    INTjs and ESFjs are different to each other, but if an INTj is described as being inclined to seriousness, then ESFjs must appreciate this in equal degree. To match this, they are also equally serious. Though perhaps an introvert being serious is more pronounced and seemingly more unhealthy than an extrovert being serious. ESFjs in descriptions are descibed as lovers of life, though it is clear that INTjs are the same in their own way. ESFjs are supposed to stand up for those who are suffering injustice...and INTjs too, in their own way. So you can see how each line in a type description should theoretically match a line in that type's dual description, and hence how the dual types tolerate each other.
    I agree with both, opposites do attract but most of the time subtract just a quickly.
    Where birds of the feather flock together and stay together.

    Duality is above appreciation .

    It's could be compared to a musician who plays and instrument well but gets more satisfaction when someone is willing to listen to him play and the one that can't play very well but loves nothing more than to listen to other people play.

    To me that is the heart of duality.
    Last edited by confused84; 06-20-2008 at 05:29 AM.

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    Sub, I think all of what you're saying here is excellent.

    and I'm still enjoying your avatar. it makes me giggle. I dunno why.
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