SEIs-ISFps and Ambition

[Mr Saturn]

Tell me that an SEI can be ambitious.

Tell me that as SEI I can become one of the worlds best cinema thinkers.

If not then I am going back to INFp.

(Oh and congrats, SEIs, for having one of the best wikisocion domains. It looks great.)

[Mediator Kam]

You can't be the best there is and be SEI. You can't even be logical and be SEI. I beg you reconsider your options, maybe ESTj is a better fit?

Amd thanks, all the SEIs worked very hard.

[Rubicon]

You can't be the best there is and be SEI. You can't even be logical and be SEI. I beg you reconsider your options, maybe ESTj is a better fit?

I hope you're joking

[Mediator Kam]

I thought of saying I just woke up and I'm cranky, but then that would have ruined the contrary-ness of the post. Thanks a lot SEI lady, you're just a dream-killer.

[Mr Saturn]

I have just read the SEI domain in depth.

I can never imagine myself speaking like that.

LOLOZZZLOLZOMG!!!!111!!!

Ps. I'm SEE now.

[Mediator Kam]

what exactly made you turn your back so fast?

[Rubicon]

I thought of saying I just woke up and I'm cranky, but then that would have ruined the contrary-ness of the post. Thanks a lot SEI lady, you're just a dream-killer.

Excuse me for being annoyed that your crankiness is directed at someone who is apparently seeking an honest answer rather than a sarcastic one.

[Mr Saturn]

I can't be SEI because I do not like the style.

The whole 'shiny blades' and 'ZOMG!' and 'HIYA FriEND! DD"

I think EIE is more likely. As long as they can be awesome and be heroes.

[Mr Saturn]

Dammit, I CANNOT be a 'victim' in relationships. I have no time for worry or insecurities.

And I apologise. This is not the place for this.

[Mediator Kam]

Excuse me for being annoyed that your crankiness is directed at someone who is apparently seeking an honest answer rather than a sarcastic one.

You've been forgiven.

[Rubicon]

I can't be SEI because I do not like the style.

The whole 'shiny blades' and 'ZOMG!' and 'HIYA FriEND! DD"

I think EIE is more likely. As long as they can be awesome and be heroes.

I don't think you're SEI at all, but for what it's worth, I don't have a penchant for shiny blades - the sight of blood makes me sick. I am not a ZOMG, HIYA FRIEND! or DD person either. I am pretty subdued and often serious really. But that's me. :-)

[Mediator Kam]

I personally like shiny things yes, but I HATE blood or watching those surgery shows. Those make me sick.

anyway, that offensive description was mere lolololol on the domain, very old and exaggerated.

[Rubicon]

You've been forgiven.

It is customary for a person to apologise before being forgiven. But in this case your intuition has served you well.

You are also forgiven.

[xyz]

I thought SEI's greatest ambition was to eat lots of tasty food???

[Rubicon]

LV's logic:

I'm SEI and my greatest ambition is to eat lots of tasty food.
Therefore, an SEI's greatest ambition is to eat lots of tasty food.

Doesn't follow - sorry.

[xyz]

I'm not SEI!!!

[redbaron]

Dammit, I CANNOT be a 'victim' in relationships. I have no time for worry or insecurities.

And I apologise. This is not the place for this.

fwiw, I don't consider myself a victim in relationships AT ALL. But I'm still IEI. So I dunno....

[Rubicon]

I'm not SEI!!!

Calm down - your Fe is annoying.

[xyz]

Calm down - your Fe is annoying.

Is it considered Fe if I get urges to choke you?

[redbaron]

Is it considered Fe if I get urges to choke you?

lol, nah that's isn't it?

[Mediator Kam]

lol, nah that's isn't it?

Using eh? wtf kind of INFp are you?

[redbaron]

Using eh? wtf kind of INFp are you?

[Rubicon]

Is it considered Fe if I get urges to choke you?

No, that would be LSI. :-)

[Wynch]

fwiw, I don't consider myself a victim in relationships AT ALL. But I'm still IEI. So I dunno....

I don't really think the victim is so much a victim as the receiver of aggressor emotions. And the aggressor isn't aggressive in the negative sense so much as very forward. Aggressor wants to control the direction of the relationship while the victim would rather have someone sweep them along while they manipulate (in a positive sense) the internal environment. Where static Se wants to manipulate it's external environment and make it do what it wants, dynamic Ni wants to soak it up like a sponge because it's physically quantifying they're internal experience. So the aggressor will be more forth-coming and will want things to happen and the victim will have to be able to translate that into a similar internal environment to suit the needs of Se. Ni depends on Se to create the external outward environment. In a very very generalized sense: "You're hot, let's hook up." Otherwise Ni will stay in his/her internal dream world. In turn, Ni reciprocates by seeing beyond the initial meeting and dedicating themselves to making the experience the best it can be. Ni is willing to go with the flow and control things in an indirect fashion so that they won't offend Se's need to be in control of their environment.

-Se/Ni Romance according to Véro.

[redbaron]

I don't really think the victim is so much a victim as the receiver of aggressor emotions. And the aggressor isn't aggressive in the negative sense so much as very forward. Aggressor wants to control the direction of the relationship while the victim would rather have someone sweep them along while they manipulate (in a positive sense) the internal environment. Where static Se wants to manipulate it's external environment and make it do what it wants, dynamic Ni wants to soak it up like a sponge because it's physically quantifying they're internal experience. So the aggressor will be more forth-coming and will want things to happen and the victim will have to be able to translate that into a similar internal environment to suit the needs of Se. Ni depends on Se to create the external outward environment. In a very very generalized sense: "You're hot, let's hook up." Otherwise Ni will stay in his/her internal dream world. In turn, Ni reciprocates by seeing beyond the initial meeting and dedicating themselves to making the experience the best it can be. Ni is willing to go with the flow and control things in an indirect fashion so that they won't offend Se's need to be in control of their environment.

-Se/Ni Romance according to Véro.

yeah yeah, you're right. that was a good description.

[Khola aka Bee]

I thought SEI's greatest ambition was to eat lots of tasty food???

Nah, not so much, although I love making cookies (seriously)!

I think my Si-ness prefers lots of crazy sex

Never doubt the quiet ones....

[JRiddy]

I thought Jem's posts in this thread each deserved a what-what:

I hope you're joking

As do we all, Kam.

Excuse me for being annoyed that your crankiness is directed at someone who is apparently seeking an honest answer rather than a sarcastic one.

I don't think you're SEI at all, but for what it's worth, I don't have a penchant for shiny blades - the sight of blood makes me sick. I am not a ZOMG, HIYA FRIEND! or DD person either. I am pretty subdued and often serious really. But that's me. :-)

You do seem more serious, but in a way that makes being serious fun. Which is awesome.

It is customary for a person to apologise before being forgiven. But in this case your intuition has served you well.

You are also forgiven.

LV's logic:

I'm SEI and my greatest ambition is to eat lots of tasty food.
Therefore, an SEI's greatest ambition is to eat lots of tasty food.

Doesn't follow - sorry.

LOL @ ISFps supposedly having weak Ti.

Calm down - your Fe is annoying.

No, that would be LSI. :-)

Hahaha. Jem, I am glad you are on the forum. You're probably the best example of an Si-sub SEI on this forum, and it's fun to see the differences between you and the more locally prevalent Fe-subs, who are decidedly more into the "z0mg! WEEEEEEE " stuff. Your ability to casually make the ordinary exciting and the serious whimsical is really cool.

Also you're generally amazing. Will you be my friend?

Nah, not so much, although I love making cookies (seriously)!

I think my Si-ness prefers lots of crazy sex

Never doubt the quiet ones....

As a side note ^ this ^ is HAWT. Alpha relationships = involving cookies in acts of physical intimacy. Well not really, but my computer's supposedly Unicode font doesn't have the mathematical "contains" operator.

[xyz]

Nah, not so much, although I love making cookies (seriously)!

I think my Si-ness prefers lots of crazy sex

Never doubt the quiet ones....

Hrm, cookies vs sex

[Rubicon]

Hahaha. Jem, I am glad you are on the forum. You're probably the best example of an Si-sub SEI on this forum, and it's fun to see the differences between you and the more locally prevalent Fe-subs, who are decidedly more into the "z0mg! WEEEEEEE " stuff. You're ability to casually make the ordinary exciting and the serious whimsical is really cool.

Also you're generally amazing. Will you be my friend?

Aw, thanks for the compliments JRiddy. Friend request accepted. :-)

[xyz]

Yeah even I prefer you, Jem.

[Rubicon]

Yeah even I prefer you, Jem.

Don't get too effusive now - you'll embarrass me.

[xyz]

Don't get too effusive now - you'll embarrass me.

Moi?! The day I get effusive is the day you wrestle an alligator.

[Rubicon]

Moi?! The day I get effusive is the day you wrestle an alligator.

Me having to wrestle with an alligator is technically a possibility.

[xyz]

Me having to wrestle with an alligator is technically a possibility.

Sure, about as possible as me becoming an actor.

[Rubicon]

Sure, about as possible as me becoming an actor.

I'll grant you that. If you had said "good actor" I would have protested, but as it is ....

[xyz]

I'll grant you that. If you had said "good actor" I would have protested, but as it is ....

I.... I got nothing... :/

You win this one Jem.

[Rubicon]

I.... I got nothing... :/

You win this one Jem.

[calenwen]

I have just read the SEI domain in depth.

I can never imagine myself speaking like that.

LOLOZZZLOLZOMG!!!!111!!!

Ps. I'm SEE now.

Because all SEIs type the same way? Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[Mr Saturn]

Because all SEIs type the same way? Thanks for the vote of confidence.

I guess not but that sort of thing doesn't really cross my mind. I consider more restricted in the typing sense.

[calenwen]

I guess not but that sort of thing doesn't really cross my mind. I consider more restricted in the typing sense.

Generalize much?