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    Default Shadow IEI-INFp Processing

    General guidelines for shadow types:
    - the object is social expectation; the subject is the id.


    (foreground)
    -Fe => +Fe => +Ni => -Ni
    (background)
    -Fi => +Fi => +Ne => -Ne


    Social ostracism (-Fe) is recognized (accepted). This is an important point: ostracism is a foregone conclusion; it is explicitly expected. Ostracism (rejection) leads to self assertion of one's own motives -- if society will not accept oneself, then one need not accept society and is free to pursue one's own intentions. This manifests as a "bad" attitude, with signals of rage and/or derision. However, one has not chosen to leave society; rather, one's rage will be carried out by the impression of one's own plan -- one's own path -- in spite of society: one makes plans to realize one's own potential. (+Ni/+Ne w/id as subject = ambition) Society either endorses or rejects this ambition depending on how closely it matches its own aspirations.

    Shadow IEI is very INTp-like with one important distinction: it is feeling and emotion, rather than objective necessity, that drives the process undertaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    I don't understand why it is - => + => + => -
    as opposed to - => + => - => +
    or some other combination???

    why is it that a concrete Fe mood is modified to fit a concrete Ni perception of the sequence of events? As opposed to a multiplicity of Ni possible events.

    I guess that would make +Fe => +Ni a super process and not at all an adaptable (result) thought algorithm. wouldn't it?
    No real reason, it's just what the order is.

    In model A terms (foreground functions only) it would be +Ni-Fe.

    The -Fe IM element processes first the object (the multiplicity of external factors like you said), then the solitary subject. -Fe, the acceptance or dismissal of the subject on basis of what the object wants (-Fi), dismisses the subject if it is not in agreement with it. (there are very few things on which creative functions of the same sign agree... the purpose of creativity is to meet challenges, after all). This dismissal by the object prompts the subject to respond with its own activity. The rage against the subject's dismissal is the basis for... revenge, probably. You don't just "get" revenge; you plan it, you execute it; and when you do, you expect retaliation by those you wronged. History shows us that one act of revenge can lead into a cycle of the same.

    It's important to note that one need not seek revenge for its own sake; the pursuit of "vengence" against the powerful can create a vacuum that may be filled by those close to oneself. By satisfying both political obligations and one's own id (...) one may exhalt oneself socially and find acceptance with a niche segment of society. Many dictators have claimed power this way.

    It's not that the type seeks vengence that is the significant point here, but the mere fact that this type will observe ostracism as a foregone conclusion. That is a powerful, and useful, statement, because it gives us a criterion on which to argue for less social ostracism in general.
    Last edited by tcaudilllg; 05-27-2008 at 12:26 AM.

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