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    Can anyone name any ILE movie characters (not the actors)?

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    Q in Star Trek
    Kramer in Seinfeld
    Doc Brown in Back to the Future
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    Kramer in Seinfeld
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    Peter Gibbons - Office Space
    Dr. Frankenstein - Young Frankenstein
    Ash Williams (albeit an idiotic one who is forced into an -role) - Evil Dead I & II, Army of Darkness
    Albert Finney - Big Fish
    Shaun Riley - Shaun of the Dead
    Dr. Merkwürdigeliebe (aka Dr. Strangelove) - Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Peter Gibbons - Office Space
    Dr. Frankenstein - Young Frankenstein
    Ash Williams (albeit an idiotic one who is forced into an -role) - Evil Dead I & II, Army of Darkness
    Albert Finney - Big Fish
    Shaun Riley - Shaun of the Dead
    Dr. Merkwürdigeliebe (aka Dr. Strangelove) - Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
    Peter Gibbons an ILE? A guy whose goal is to just do nothing an EP? He's an SLI. Not because he wants to "do nothing" (ILEs sure can be lazy), but because Si is such a strong element of his personality, and there is little desire to set his understanding in motion (Ne ----> Fe in alpha), but rather using work or lack thereof to give him opportunities to explore (Te ----> Ne in delta).

    Albert Finney is the actor who plays the older Edward Bloom in Big Fish.
    Edward is probably an IEE rather than an ILE; the impact of a story and it's importance to people is far more important than its coherence or facts.

    The other ones I can see.

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    The most common way an ILE is portrayed in movies is as the stock character of the mad scientist. Several of these have already been mentioned. I'm trying to think of movies that get more into the character of an ILE, and I'm having trouble, so I'll get back to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRiddy View Post
    Peter Gibbons an ILE? A guy whose goal is to just do nothing an EP? He's an SLI. Not because he wants to "do nothing" (ILEs sure can be lazy), but because Si is such a strong element of his personality, and there is little desire to set his understanding in motion (Ne ----> Fe in alpha), but rather using work or lack thereof to give him opportunities to explore (Te ----> Ne in delta).
    That Si element though was only brought to the forefront due to the hypnosis.

    Albert Finney is the actor who plays the older Edward Bloom in Big Fish.
    Edward is probably an IEE rather than an ILE; the impact of a story and it's importance to people is far more important than its coherence or facts.
    My mistake with Albert Finney. I do not see a HA in Edward Bloom though, but do see a HA in his desire to be well received by his stories and to make it big. The was devalued, and the tension between Edward Bloom and his son arose from the son's -driven values of the gross exaggeration and embellishments of the story.

    The most common way an ILE is portrayed in movies is as the stock character of the mad scientist. Several of these have already been mentioned. I'm trying to think of movies that get more into the character of an ILE, and I'm having trouble, so I'll get back to you.
    Yes, the mad scientist is the stock ILE character, but it would be good to find characters that avoided that stereotype. I too will hopefully come back to this question. If this thread was more open-ended to include TV shows, it would be easier for me, but I will stick with movies.
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    "Cornelius," Fight Club
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Richard Dreyfuss' character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind was a great example of an ILE imo.
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    Charlie Kaufman in Adaptation (?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    "Cornelius," Fight Club
    Quote Originally Posted by diljs View Post
    Charlie Kaufman in Adaptation (?)

    ! yes and yes! I enjoyed these characters fully. Gilly, diljs: you've each made my night.
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    uh....no one listed any females. not that i can think of any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    uh....no one listed any females. not that i can think of any.
    There are no female ENTps.

    J/K

    I'm trying to think of some, it's a little more difficult for me to think of how I'd act as a woman, plus there's society's bias to more "feelery" female characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diljs View Post
    There are no female ENTps.

    J/K

    I'm trying to think of some, it's a little more difficult for me to think of how I'd act as a woman, plus there's society's bias to more "feelery" female characters.
    yeah so true. sometimes there's be some good SLE female characters in movies....but not usually ILE.

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    Juno, anyone? I have a feeling Juno is ENTp.



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    US Colonial Marine Hudson (Aliens)
    Peter Venkman / Bill Murray (Ghostbusters)
    Groucho Marx??
    Doctor House
    Dennis Finch (Just shoot me!)
    Morpheus (The Matrix)
    Chandler Bing (Friends)
    Ross Geller (Friends)
    HM Murdock (The A-Team)
    Norm MacDonald (Norm)
    Ted / Liev Schreiber (Sphere)
    Seth Gecko (From Dusk Till Dawn)
    Dr Frasier Crane
    McGyver
    Indiana Jones
    Darth Vader
    Frank Drebin/ Leslie Nielsen (The Naked Gun)
    Scientist / James Spader (Stargate)
    etc etc
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
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    i think mn0good is right about juno. more females, more females!!!! :-)

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    Leslie Burke from the recent Hollywood version of Bridge to Terabithia is ENXp in my mind.
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