Typing by quadra
Just wondering - is this an effective way of typing? A lot of you seem to start with identifying the quadra, and then you narrow it down from there. Are someone's values that apparent upon first appearance? Seems to me an ISFp and ISTp would appear to have a lot more similarities than an ISFp and ENTp for example.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
maybe in real life it would be easier to determine ego/strong functions, but online it might be easier to determine quadra values?
I think that if you meet people in real life, yes, it is more likely that you wonder between ISFp and ISTp than between ISFp and ENTp.
But online, when you try to analyze the person's priorities in what they write and what they tell about their lives, etc, their kind of humor, and the like, then I think that very often the quadra is more readily apparent.
And, sometimes, even when watching videos, etc, the temperament and base function may not be clear, while the quadra values may be more obvious.
Other times, it will be the opposite.
ETA: yes what hellothere said.
Last edited by Expat; 05-17-2008 at 01:18 PM.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
It's not so much that quadra values are this thing taken in isolation, used for typing. They're more of an overriding thing you can sense in someone's personality. Personally, I don't deliberately go looking for them when typing someone; they just seem to gradually appear.
4w3-5w6-8w7
Only if you want to increase the likelihood of a mistyping. Typing by quadra is a bad, bad, bad idea.
That's why so many people on this forum are mistyped, and that's why so many people here don't understand the types correctly.
Nope. It's nothing but a guessing game. People think that they are good at typing people using the quadra method. But they are wrong. They don't realize how many mistakes they are making.
Yes, certainly. They share the same temperament, both in a socionic sense and in Keirsey's sense (both the ISFp and the ISTp are Artisans). In addition to that they also share the same leading function. So of course the ISFp and the ISTp are much more similar in a lot more relevant ways than an ISFp and an ENTp, who are totally diffrerent in almost everything.
The main reason why two types are Duals are not that they are similar but that they are very different from each other.
No. Online it is easier and much more accurate to type by asking the person what test results they get and what dichotomies and type descriptions they identify with.
Nope.
That's exactly the right approach to adopt.
I agree with hellothere and expat.
IRL, you can sometimes find a persons quadra by spotting them liven up in the right quadra atmosphere. And still you have to be careful. INFjs can become talkative when they're talking with an ENTj, so there's the danger of typing the INFj as gamma just because they like Te.
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ya, my favorite method is to wildly insult someone, and if they like it, beta it is.
(lol)
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I think it depends on the person, whether irl or online. (It's easier to make it look like functions other than your ego function are strong online than irl though.)
Some people are clearly Fe leading. Some people are clearly Se valuing. Some people are clearly EJ. Some people are clearly SF. It just depends on the person.
As for myself, it's easiest to type others through quadra values than by other means, for the most part. I wonder if this is related to Fi valuing vs. Ti valuing.
lolseems like it could work, yes!
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
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A "type" is static + field thing (static in that one's type is their state, field in that types are related to other types in the system).
external statics of fields (Ti): the Ti theory itself
internal statics of fields (Fi): people's relationships to each other
A Fi valuing type may see it as easier or more important to evaluate their relationship to others and then see how it fits into the theory than to just evaluate a person's behavior and analyze it according to the theory itself.
A type involves all functions and their arrangement. Understand the essence of each type and you'll never confuse them again.
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to Phaedrus or not to Phaedrus ...
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Everything to Phaedrus -- that's what I call a good will.to Phaedrus or not to Phaedrus ...
Oh! You're so witty, dear.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Will you be my wit(t)ness to that?
Ooh! You're on fire! Keep 'em coming!
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Okay, I'll take care of the fire ... if you'll be chopin'. Who will make the salad?
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Woah! What happened while I was asleep?? From innocent bantering to talk of dinner preparation?*backs away slowly*
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
So you will not be chopin' then ...Woah! What happened while I was asleep?? From innocent bantering to talk of dinner preparation?... But I was really looking forward to meat again ... *sigh* ... I guess I just have to shake my spare parts ... Oh, be some other name! What's in a name? That which we call a roast ...
Indeed!So you will not be chopin' then ...This be madness, and there is no method in it.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
No method?Indeed!... No method, you say!?
- An ISFp and ISTp are vastly different. One's polr is the other's creative function.
- Yeah to what expat said.
- I think typing, (as I wrote in the "how do you type people thread), is a lot about figuring out WHICH axis or dichotomy (not necessarily reinin, but general socionics ones) stand out the most. And then go from there, working out what seems clear.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
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