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    Question Typing by quadra

    Just wondering - is this an effective way of typing? A lot of you seem to start with identifying the quadra, and then you narrow it down from there. Are someone's values that apparent upon first appearance? Seems to me an ISFp and ISTp would appear to have a lot more similarities than an ISFp and ENTp for example.
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    maybe in real life it would be easier to determine ego/strong functions, but online it might be easier to determine quadra values?

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    I think that if you meet people in real life, yes, it is more likely that you wonder between ISFp and ISTp than between ISFp and ENTp.

    But online, when you try to analyze the person's priorities in what they write and what they tell about their lives, etc, their kind of humor, and the like, then I think that very often the quadra is more readily apparent.

    And, sometimes, even when watching videos, etc, the temperament and base function may not be clear, while the quadra values may be more obvious.

    Other times, it will be the opposite.

    ETA: yes what hellothere said.
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    It's not so much that quadra values are this thing taken in isolation, used for typing. They're more of an overriding thing you can sense in someone's personality. Personally, I don't deliberately go looking for them when typing someone; they just seem to gradually appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Just wondering - is this an effective way of typing?
    Only if you want to increase the likelihood of a mistyping. Typing by quadra is a bad, bad, bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by chopin
    A lot of you seem to start with identifying the quadra, and then you narrow it down from there.
    That's why so many people on this forum are mistyped, and that's why so many people here don't understand the types correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by chopin
    Are someone's values that apparent upon first appearance?
    Nope. It's nothing but a guessing game. People think that they are good at typing people using the quadra method. But they are wrong. They don't realize how many mistakes they are making.

    Quote Originally Posted by chopin
    Seems to me an ISFp and ISTp would appear to have a lot more similarities than an ISFp and ENTp for example.
    Yes, certainly. They share the same temperament, both in a socionic sense and in Keirsey's sense (both the ISFp and the ISTp are Artisans). In addition to that they also share the same leading function. So of course the ISFp and the ISTp are much more similar in a lot more relevant ways than an ISFp and an ENTp, who are totally diffrerent in almost everything.

    The main reason why two types are Duals are not that they are similar but that they are very different from each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    maybe in real life it would be easier to determine ego/strong functions, but online it might be easier to determine quadra values?
    No. Online it is easier and much more accurate to type by asking the person what test results they get and what dichotomies and type descriptions they identify with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    And, sometimes, even when watching videos, etc, the temperament and base function may not be clear, while the quadra values may be more obvious.
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    Personally, I don't deliberately go looking for them when typing someone; they just seem to gradually appear.
    That's exactly the right approach to adopt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Just wondering - is this an effective way of typing? A lot of you seem to start with identifying the quadra, and then you narrow it down from there. Are someone's values that apparent upon first appearance? Seems to me an ISFp and ISTp would appear to have a lot more similarities than an ISFp and ENTp for example.
    I agree with hellothere and expat.
    IRL, you can sometimes find a persons quadra by spotting them liven up in the right quadra atmosphere. And still you have to be careful. INFjs can become talkative when they're talking with an ENTj, so there's the danger of typing the INFj as gamma just because they like Te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    I agree with hellothere and expat.
    IRL, you can sometimes find a persons quadra by spotting them liven up in the right quadra atmosphere. And still you have to be careful. INFjs can become talkative when they're talking with an ENTj, so there's the danger of typing the INFj as gamma just because they like Te.
    ya, my favorite method is to wildly insult someone, and if they like it, beta it is.

    (lol)
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    I think it depends on the person, whether irl or online. (It's easier to make it look like functions other than your ego function are strong online than irl though.)

    Some people are clearly Fe leading. Some people are clearly Se valuing. Some people are clearly EJ. Some people are clearly SF. It just depends on the person.

    As for myself, it's easiest to type others through quadra values than by other means, for the most part. I wonder if this is related to Fi valuing vs. Ti valuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    ya, my favorite method is to wildly insult someone, and if they like it, beta it is.

    (lol)
    lol seems like it could work, yes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    probably not. at least, I have no idea how this would possibly be true...
    A "type" is static + field thing (static in that one's type is their state, field in that types are related to other types in the system).

    external statics of fields (Ti): the Ti theory itself
    internal statics of fields (Fi): people's relationships to each other

    A Fi valuing type may see it as easier or more important to evaluate their relationship to others and then see how it fits into the theory than to just evaluate a person's behavior and analyze it according to the theory itself.
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    to Phaedrus or not to Phaedrus ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    to Phaedrus or not to Phaedrus ...
    Everything to Phaedrus -- that's what I call a good will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Everything to Phaedrus -- that's what I call a good will.
    Oh! You're so witty, dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Oh! You're so witty, dear.
    Will you be my wit(t)ness to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Will you be my wit(t)ness to that?
    Ooh! You're on fire! Keep 'em coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Ooh! You're on fire! Keep 'em coming!
    Okay, I'll take care of the fire ... if you'll be chopin'. Who will make the salad?
    Last edited by Phaedrus; 05-18-2008 at 03:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Okay, I'll take care of the fire ... if you'll be chopin'. Who will make the salad?
    Woah! What happened while I was asleep?? From innocent bantering to talk of dinner preparation? *backs away slowly*
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Woah! What happened while I was asleep?? From innocent bantering to talk of dinner preparation? *backs away slowly*
    So you will not be chopin' then ... ... But I was really looking forward to meat again ... *sigh* ... I guess I just have to shake my spare parts ... Oh, be some other name! What's in a name? That which we call a roast ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    So you will not be chopin' then ... ... But I was really looking forward to meat again ... *sigh* ... I guess I just have to shake my spare parts ... Oh, be some other name! What's in a name? That which we call a roast ...
    Indeed! This be madness, and there is no method in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Indeed! This be madness, and there is no method in it.
    No method? ... No method, you say!? ... I was looking forward to having a nice fire this Abend -- not a Feyerabend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Just wondering - is this an effective way of typing? A lot of you seem to start with identifying the quadra, and then you narrow it down from there. Are someone's values that apparent upon first appearance? Seems to me an ISFp and ISTp would appear to have a lot more similarities than an ISFp and ENTp for example.
    - An ISFp and ISTp are vastly different. One's polr is the other's creative function.

    - Yeah to what expat said.


    - I think typing, (as I wrote in the "how do you type people thread), is a lot about figuring out WHICH axis or dichotomy (not necessarily reinin, but general socionics ones) stand out the most. And then go from there, working out what seems clear.
    Pre-2013 post are written with incomplete understanding.

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