New socioninfo tool! Manually removes hidden agenda!

**Angel von Himmel** · 01-02-2006, 05:35 AM

If you use this tool correctly, you should be able to manually remove hidden agenda and suggestive function influence from your results and it also gives you a subtype.

Link: http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi

Sycophants results:
http://socion.info/cgi-bin/html/resu...846177712.html

This is sycophants results entered before:

http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

This is sycophants results entered after:

http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

She went from having high

and showing as ESTp to INTp ...

Try it with yours ...

**implied** · 01-02-2006, 06:01 AM

first results

isfp sensing subtype, then it goes to esfp sensing subtype. on the other test it went from istp to estp.

second results

**niveK** · 01-02-2006, 06:08 AM

I had to manually replace localhost with socion.info after I clicked the submit button.

Interestingly enough, despite a lack of strong Te, it listed my plausible type as I(N)Tp.

Also, what's with the row of radio buttons and submit query button?

The tool's results.

**implied** · 01-02-2006, 06:10 AM

**niveK** · 01-02-2006, 06:29 AM

At NG, I'm ILI/I(N)Tp, I move to the SG, and I become SLE/E(S)Tp. At TG I'm ILE/EN(T)p. FG and I'm a typeless wonder.

Perhaps you should include some basic instructions or at least a vague description of what stuff is supposed to be.

**Louise** · 01-02-2006, 12:21 PM

hmm interesting, I now get ISFp ethical subtype...

**Zeia** · 01-02-2006, 12:45 PM

First: http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

Second: http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

Interesting, INTp on that one.... (have you found my first test yet?)

Second Test First Reults: http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

Second Test Second Results: http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&FIW=24&simp=1

And were back to INTj.

**Angel von Himmel** · 01-02-2006, 08:12 PM

I see you guys have been busy at work finding bugs for me to fix, and I just fixed them. If you guys click on the links again, you should get the correct information without the bugs.

Ohh yeah, I added it so that you can also look by Quadra ...

**niveK** · 01-02-2006, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by rmcnew

I see you guys have been busy at work finding bugs for me to fix, and I just fixed them. If you guys click on the links again, you should get the correct information without the bugs.

Ohh yeah, I added it so that you can also look by Quadra ...

So, I realize the N in NG would be intuition, and Tx, Fx, and Sx the appropriate functions, but what do the G and L stand for? I've noticed that on valid combinations, the G basically sets the subtype, and the L is something that would be weak in the type that it shows. But all this is doing for me so far is allowing me to manipulate the results in a reasonably predictable manner. I'm not exactly getting much helpful information here. I realize it's to manually remove the suggestive and estimative functions, but the labelling just isn't making much sense.

**Angel von Himmel** · 01-02-2006, 09:14 PM

Just made a description on how to understand and work some of this ...
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Probably the only time results need to be edited are when the following situations arise:
1- The hidden agenda or suggestive function is mucking with the result and some functions need to be filtered
2- A person is a perceiving type and a logical or ethical subtype
3- A person is a judging type and an intuitive or sensing subtype

If the three conditions above do not apply to your results, then the first result recived is more than
likely your correct type and does not need to be edited.

Hidden Agenda and Suggestive function - If the suggestive function or hidden agenda function is mucking
with the results, they will need to be filtered from the results by using the radio buttons to change the
dominant function. For example, if some sensible function is enveloping a dominant intuitive function on
the test, you will need to change the radio button "SG" to "NG" to make intuition the dominant function.
Alternativelly, you may also use the "L" radio button to select a least dominant function.

Usually the following functions are confused with each other on the test-

Ne -> Si
Ni -> Se
Se -> Ni
Si -> Ne
Te -> Fi
Ti -> Fe
Fe -> Ti
Fi -> Te

Subtypes - By default according to the program, J types are automatically ethical and logical subtypes
and P types are automatically sensing and intuitive subtypes. The tool does not detect mixed or
neutral subtypes.

Some considerations about subtypes: perceptive types who are logical or ethical subtypes may think
that they are J type and judging types who are intuitive and sensing subtype may think they are
P types. If you come out as one of these subtypes, please consider that an option.

Some sample results that have been tweeked to the type they are suppose to be:
Sycophant: Confusion between

and

and reflected in the results.
Baby:

**mike_INTJ** · 01-02-2006, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by rmcnew

If you use this tool correctly, you should be able to manually remove hidden agenda and suggestive function influence from your results and it also gives you a subtype.

Link: http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi

Sycophants results:
http://socion.info/cgi-bin/html/resu...846177712.html

This is sycophants results entered before:

http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

This is sycophants results entered after:

http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

She went from having high

and showing as ESTp to INTp ...

Try it with yours ...

first result - it had no idea. the second placed me as ENTJ, which couldn't be right either. manually done i was places as an INTP...

however the questions on that test were confusing, and not detailed enough. so it's hard to come to a solid conclusion. i think it asked me about my health 15 times.

Creepy- · 01-03-2006, 03:38 PM

Here's what I got from my results.

ISTp logical subtype

ISTj logical subtype

ESFp sensing subtype

ENTp intuitive subtype

Now I still don't know how to do the filtering properly,
but I got a funny result using the SG button on the ENTp result,
saying EISTp sensing subtype. I guess it's another bug that needs to be fixed.

**Park** · 01-03-2006, 03:41 PM

oops, that was me^. I guess my logging timed out or something...

**snegledmaca** · 01-03-2006, 03:46 PM

This test seems to think I’m ENTj.

http://socion.info/cgi-bin/tool.cgi?...&function=post

Here are my normal results:
http://socion.info/cgi-bin/html/resu...961583561.html
http://socion.info/cgi-bin/html/resu...766068161.html

**nobrainer** · 01-03-2006, 07:47 PM

rmcnew, I've got no use for my hidden agenda and it slows me down. Can I remove it wiht your hidden agenda removing tool?

**Angel von Himmel** · 01-04-2006, 01:39 AM

I redid the tool today, did some bugfixes and redid the subtypes.

Also, I improved the interface and made it easier to navigate ... you can now filter out specific functions instead of groups of functions.

**mike_INTJ** · 01-04-2006, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by rmcnew

I redid the tool today, did some bugfixes and redid the subtypes.

Also, I improved the interface and made it easier to navigate ... you can now filter out specific functions instead of groups of functions.

though i havn't looked at it today, have you set it up through a link - so i can enter the link instead of typing all the numbers?

**snegledmaca** · 01-04-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by rmcnew

I redid the tool today, did some bugfixes and redid the subtypes.

Also, I improved the interface and made it easier to navigate ... you can now filter out specific functions instead of groups of functions.

But how would you know what to filter out?

I’m confused

(<−−−− Me confused)

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