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    Out of ESFj and ENFj, which has the greatest level of emotional intelligence?

    [Emotional intelligence is concerned with an ability, capacity, or skill to perceive, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups.]

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    Ive seen immature of both. Mature ENFj's seem to be more reserved tho although I guess I could say the same of some ESFjs. Come to think of it, this is more of a gender, age and social issue combined. btw have you seen that emotional IQ test? It's a piece of crap. That would be beyond measurable anyhow. Sooooo subjective + cultural on what is emotional IQ.

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    Yeah, I'd say that's MUCH more individual that just type. It's about self-acceptence. There are well and unwell people of every type.
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    "...this is more of a gender, age and social issue combined."

    I agree. I don't think socionics can answer the question that Hugo poses.

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    I think emotional intelligence has do with .

    Therefore, Socionics is relevant.

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    intelligence != maturity.

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    I suppose that Fe might correlate to interpersonal intelligence but I don't see how Si or Ni relate to interpersonal or intrapersonal intelligence and so I would disagree that socionics is relevant.

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    "Intelligence" and "emotional intelligence" are not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    I think emotional intelligence has do with .

    Therefore, Socionics is relevant.
    Maybe I'm biased, but E.I. is related to IMO. I don't see as understaning people that much. No directly, anyway.
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    Rocky, this is how I understand it: the two components of "emotional intelligence," above defined by Hugo, are interpersonal intelligence and intrapersonal intelligence. Interpersonal intelligence could relate to Fe while intrapersonal intelligence might relate to Fi.

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    In that sense, they both are related--just differently.

    So hmm... could one measure this EI based on the level of maturation of Fi or Fe within a persons's 4 face functions? And inversely of their shadow functions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    "Intelligence" and "emotional intelligence" are not the same thing.
    emotional intelligence != emotional maturity

    I meant what I said.



    (If you'd like to stretch things, then I'd say that one could use their emotional intelligence as a tool to create opportunities to increase emotional maturity. I could also say that one could use their level of emotional maturity as a means to improve their emotional intelligence. The two are not synonymous, therefore.. just as with intelligence and maturity.)
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    "So hmm... could one measure this EI based on the level of maturation of Fi or Fe within a persons's 4 face functions? And inversely of their shadow functions?"

    Probably not. Regardless of how developed Fi or Fe are functionally, environmental pressures might cause a person to display the use of a function that is not naturally one of their strong functions, such as the super-ego functions, in order to maintain a positive self-image and thus they would repress their natural inclinations toward displaying Fi or Fe. I don't think it is unwise to assume that there would be some correlation between Feeling as defined by socionics and emotional intelligence, but I also don't know if the correlation is great enough to be directly measurable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MySaviour
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    "Intelligence" and "emotional intelligence" are not the same thing.
    emotional intelligence != emotional maturity

    I meant what I said.



    (If you'd like to stretch things, then I'd say that one could use their emotional intelligence as a tool to create opportunities to increase emotional maturity. I could also say that one could use their level of emotional maturity as a means to improve their emotional intelligence. The two are not synonymous, therefore.. just as with intelligence and maturity.)

    Then what is emotional intelligence? If we argue the meaning of it then this could become an infinite loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempus
    "So hmm... could one measure this EI based on the level of maturation of Fi or Fe within a persons's 4 face functions? And inversely of their shadow functions?"

    Probably not. Regardless of how developed Fi or Fe are functionally, environmental pressures might cause a person to display the use of a function that is not naturally one of their strong functions, such as the super-ego functions, in order to maintain a positive self-image and thus they would repress their natural inclinations toward displaying Fi or Fe. I don't think it is unwise to assume that there would be some correlation between Feeling as defined by socionics and emotional intelligence, but I also don't know if the correlation is great enough to be directly measurable.
    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae
    Quote Originally Posted by MySaviour
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    "Intelligence" and "emotional intelligence" are not the same thing.
    emotional intelligence != emotional maturity

    I meant what I said.



    (If you'd like to stretch things, then I'd say that one could use their emotional intelligence as a tool to create opportunities to increase emotional maturity. I could also say that one could use their level of emotional maturity as a means to improve their emotional intelligence. The two are not synonymous, therefore.. just as with intelligence and maturity.)

    Then what is emotional intelligence? If we argue the meaning of it then this could become an infinite loop.
    ESFp's, emotionally mature or not, are usually emotionally intelligent.. for example. I'm not nitpicking, and I won't beat the horse. Just thought I'd point out an important difference.
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    So what is emotionally intelligent then? Is there a way to define it, is what I am asking, as to avoid mixing the differentiation.

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    Emotional Intelligence:

    Fi: being able to read people, being able to tell how they ,feel and empathizing with them.

    Fe: Being able to tell how other people will react to certain stimuli; social skills; calibrating your own emotions to produce optimal response.
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    According to wikipedia, emotional intelligence includes

    1. The capacity to accurately perceive emotions
    2. The capacity to use emotions to facilitate thinking
    3. The capacity to understand emotional meanings
    4. The capacity to manage emotions


    I, however, would say it's more the ability to handle emotions in a healthy manner.
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    1. The capacity to accurately perceive emotions - Fi
    2. The capacity to use emotions to facilitate thinking - Fe
    3. The capacity to understand emotional meanings - Fi
    4. The capacity to manage emotions - Fe
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I have all of those. btw NF's are a whole, in general, are empathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    1. The capacity to accurately perceive emotions - Fi
    2. The capacity to use emotions to facilitate thinking - Fe
    3. The capacity to understand emotional meanings - Fi
    4. The capacity to manage emotions - Fe
    I tend to agree with Hugo, based on my experience with EXFjs and IXFjs.

    ESFjs and ENFjs are better at accurately reading what others are feeling, at the same time passing judgement on that ("didn't you see that that guy doesn't like you, he's a tosser", my ESFj gf used to say) - with as Personal Knowledge?

    ISFjs and INFjs are more likely to "feel" what others "should" be feeling in a particular situation according to their own emotions and ethical principles but pretty much convinced that they are reading what others are really feeling - as Personal Knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    ISFjs and INFjs are more likely to "feel" what others "should" be feeling in a particular situation according to their own emotions and ethical principles but pretty much convinced that they are reading what others are really feeling - as Personal Knowledge.
    I can relate to that, in a way. I think it might explain part of the reason why I get hurt when people say mean/rude/aggressive/hurtful/angry/.../... things (to me, or to anyone else) because I know that if I said something like that, I'd have to be very angry or dislike the person very much.

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