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    Default How does it feel to be physically attractive ?

    Does it make you feel secure ? insecure ?

    Do you actually feel attractive ? Or do you just acknowledge being attractive, while not feeling it ?

    Does it feel like being socially inadequate ? Does it improve your adequacy ?

    Do you feel like being the centre of attention ? Do you fear of being unnoticed or overly noticed ?

    Does being attractive and beautiful the same thing for you ?

    Does being attractive and good the same thing for you ?

    Do you think being attractive renders others more friendly to you ? more hostile ?

    Do you feel narcissistic ? self-effaced ?

    How do you feel when others compliment you about being attractive ?

    Do you suffer your attractiveness ?

    How do you feel when some dude/chick is making advances to you ?

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    You're asking everyone? As if you're the only ugly dude on the forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmonbozia View Post
    You're asking everyone? As if you're the only ugly dude on the forum?
    I'm asking everyone who's actually far more attractive than average.

    For example, some chicks feel insecure because they're very attractive, and may think "do they think I'm a fuckin' whore or something ?" because they're feminist retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    For example, some chicks feel insecure because they're very attractive, and may think "do they think I'm a fuckin' whore or something ?" because they're feminist retards.
    Huh. Explain this more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    I'm asking everyone who's actually far more attractive than average.

    For example, some chicks feel insecure because they're very attractive, and may think "do they think I'm a fuckin' whore or something ?" because they're feminist retards.
    Some people find me attractive. Some people find me sort of creepy looking. I'm among the latter half.

    (This is the most recent photo of my me. For reference and stuff. I'm not the silly bald guy who is trying to look cool.)


    It annoys me when people comment on my appearance. Not because I feel like an object but because I crave praise (okay, I said it) and I don't want to complements on things that I don't work on. If I put make up on or fixed my hair I'm sure I would be very flattered. As it is I want people to say nice things about stuff that I have to put an effort into. Anyway, I look 12.
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    Well, I'm not claiming to be exceptionally attractive myself and I never would, but I could see why attractive people would be more insecure as the only thing they're ever judged on is their appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    I wish I was uglier, so I can actually have drive to accomplish some satisfying work. Instead I tend to take extremely long breaks in front of a mirror just staring in narcissistic glee at some of my well apportioned facial features. When the time could be much better served reading or doing productive labour.

    This time, for example, could have been better used to read about something interesting rather than inform this thread about how physically attractive I am.

    I spent my morning thinking about how rich and successful I can become someday without even lifting a finger. How basically everyone will listen to what I have to say, no matter how vapid or controversial a proposal. I'll probably live a longer life than most of you just because there are far fewer things I have to worry about, and this brings immense satisfaction.

    Really though, it's a fairly lethargic, self-satisfied and quite a bourgeois lifestyle compared to most.

    Does this answer your question?
    Let's see those pics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    only 1 old pic for now... I'll take the rest when I feel like it...
    I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes
    Then you can tell the forum that I'm being serious.
    Jxrtes is being serious, forum.

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    Security and insecurity aren't a result of one's appearance (though one's appearance can be the result of security or insecurity).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    only 1 old pic for now... I'll take the rest when I feel like it.

    proffesional super glam pic taken last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Most of the really attractive females that I've met are actually very, very insecure about the way they look.
    Yeah. They suck.
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    I have yet to meet an extremely attractive, insecure woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I have yet to meet an extremely attractive, insecure woman.
    Maybe you refer to them as 'stuck up bitches'?
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    One of the most difficult thing about attraction is that it serves as a shroud. The idea of being attracted to someone and "falling in love" based on how someone looks cuts away from the various forms of compatibility that are necessary for certain kinds of relationships to be successful. But attraction is a big part of making one night stands successful, etc.
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    I want to add something. I think a lot of people fear looking arrogant, so they hide the fact that they are attractive. This is a stupid technique. As I said, my best friend takes this idea on board, and he's well liked by a lot of people. Except he takes it too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I want to add something. I think a lot of people fear looking arrogant, so they hide the fact that they are attractive.
    mmhmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I want to add something. I think a lot of people fear looking arrogant, so they hide the fact that they are attractive. This is a stupid technique. As I said, my best friend takes this idea on board, and he's well liked by a lot of people. Except he takes it too far.
    I agree, this is a very stupid technique, and is merely a more indirect form of egotism. what the fuck is there to hide? if you're hot, you're hot. it's not cocky if it's true - and you can sense if it's true (confidence) not just by someone's looks, but by their whole presence.
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    I agree with those who say it has more to do with how you carry yourself. Being married, you don't have to worry about getting hit on (for the most part) so it's safe and fun to be friendly and confident. Much easier to enjoy one's own attractiveness when you're not nervous about attracting the wrong sort.

    The other thing I'll throw in here is that as you get older (middle-aged like me), putting a bit of work into your appearance doesn't mean you have negative self-esteem. It actually means the opposite.
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    feels pretty good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
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    Does it make you feel secure ? insecure ?
    I'm a bit of a weird case, because my appearance tends to divide women into two groups. The first group is attracted to muscley guys (like Jessica) and finds me ugly or whatever, and the second group is attracted to tall and/or skinny guys and thinks I'm really hot and follows me around and gets their friends to ask me if I like them. There are, of course, men who are much better-looking than be, but I think I've made out pretty well in that area.

    So I guess it makes me feel a mixture of both security and insecurity, though for the most part I don't care what people think.

    Do you actually feel attractive ? Or do you just acknowledge being attractive, while not feeling it ?
    It depends on whether or not I like what I am wearing or if I need to shower or groom. If I like my appearance and feel clean, then yes, I feel attractive. If I feel dirty/ugly, no.

    Does it feel like being socially inadequate ? Does it improve your adequacy ?
    It feels like a social advantage, but not at all a measure of adequacy.

    Do you feel like being the centre of attention ? Do you fear of being unnoticed or overly noticed ?
    I don't at all enjoy being the center of a group's attention, but I like being the center of attention for the person I am talking to, assuming I find them interesting.

    Does being attractive and beautiful the same thing for you ?
    People can have beautiful personalities regardless of appearance, but I find myself aroused mainly by physical beauty and would probably not get involved with someone I thought was physically unattractive.

    Does being attractive and good the same thing for you ?
    (a better way of phrasing this would be, "Are attractiveness and goodness the same thing to you?")

    Not at all. They're not even remotely related.

    Do you think being attractive renders others more friendly to you ? more hostile ?
    Almost always more friendly. Women at stores and whatnot are usually really nice to me, probably because I have a pretty face, so it's good for "getting things". It's also fun when a woman makes initial eye contact and accidentally holds it for too long because they like I'm hot.

    Do you feel narcissistic ? self-effaced ?
    No. I just think of it as good luck and move on.
    How do you feel when others compliment you about being attractive ?
    Good. I like compliments, and they feel like Te input somehow.

    Do you suffer your attractiveness ?
    Nope.

    How do you feel when some dude/chick is making advances to you ?
    When I was single, I liked it a lot. If it were to happen now I would "like it" but carefully restrict my responses, so it wouldn't be as enjoyable. Flirting = offer of sex, and that's one of the most important things humans do, so it makes you feel successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I'm a bit of a weird case, because my appearance tends to divide women into two groups. The first group is attracted to muscley guys (like Jessica)
    Wrong. I simply like men to look like men. And I also like men who weigh more than me. Call me crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Wrong. I simply like men to look like men. And I also like men who weigh more than me. Call me crazy.
    You weigh more than 175 lbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Does it make you feel secure ? insecure ?
    Quite frankly, it doesn't affect me either way. It's a bonus in life. I'm sure I could find people even if I was the ugliest motherfucker on the planet. I'd just have to lower my standards.

    Do you actually feel attractive ? Or do you just acknowledge being attractive, while not feeling it ?
    Sometimes I look in the mirror and go "hey there, good lookin'". Not really (I do sometimes admire my eyes though; the way they shine mystically in the sunlight reflecting off the mirror). My best friend actually does. He sometimes goes "damn! I'm good lookin'", or - worse - "Ez, I am really good looking".

    Does it feel like being socially inadequate ? Does it improve your adequacy ?
    I've known ugly people to be socially masterful. I've known good looking people to be complete loners.

    Do you feel like being the centre of attention ? Do you fear of being unnoticed or overly noticed ?
    I'm not that attractive.

    Does being attractive and beautiful the same thing for you ?
    No way. I'm far from beautiful; in fact, I don't think anyone on this forum is beautiful, but I think there are a lot of attractive people here.

    Does being attractive and good the same thing for you ?
    That's a laughable concept.

    Do you think being attractive renders others more friendly to you ? more hostile ?
    No.

    Do you feel narcissistic ? self-effaced ?
    No.

    How do you feel when others compliment you about being attractive ?
    Unperturbed.

    Do you suffer your attractiveness ?
    No.

    How do you feel when some dude/chick is making advances to you ?
    Flattered, actually. As a male, I'm supposed to make the advances. It's nice to see some forwardness in a woman.

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    I was hesitant to respond to this thread because I prefer not to discuss my likeness, or think too much of compliments. If I do get a compliment on my features I usually interpret it as a gesture of goodwill, but not necessarily as flattery.


    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Does it make you feel secure ? insecure ?
    I suppose it makes me feel secure, but I don't think I would be insecure if I was less attractive.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Do you actually feel attractive ? Or do you just acknowledge being attractive, while not feeling it ?
    I am confident about myself, therefore I "feel" attractive.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Does it feel like being socially inadequate ? Does it improve your adequacy ?
    I think it improves social adequacy in that I am accepted easily. What I say is received well.

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    Do you feel like being the centre of attention ? Do you fear of being unnoticed or overly noticed ?
    Being noticed is not at the centre of my attention, normally. If I am the topic of a group, I usually defer to someone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Does being attractive and beautiful the same thing for you ?
    I want it to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Does being attractive and good the same thing for you ?
    I want it to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Do you think being attractive renders others more friendly to you ? more hostile ?
    Certanily more friendly, and studies have shown that attractive people "do better" in life, getting promotions easier, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Do you feel narcissistic ? self-effaced ?
    I don't want explicit attention drawn to my appearance, but benefits are lush.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    How do you feel when others compliment you about being attractive ?
    I feel the need to change the topic or return the favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Do you suffer your attractiveness ?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    How do you feel when some dude/chick is making advances to you?
    Dude: No Thanks. Chick: Yes thanks, but not if someone important sees or if I am not attracted to her.
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    Dude: No Thanks.
    You like dudes, don't you

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    You like dudes, don't you
    You want me to like dudes, don't you?
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    I don't feel any different about myself although it does entitle be by societies standards to go out with hot women and be more picky.

    I see hot women sometimes with the most ordinary looking guys and I think to myself, what the hell is she doing with him!.

    If he was good looking I would say to myself, Ok good luck I hope it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    You want me to like dudes, don't you?
    Yeah, but not me

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    The whole 'looking good' culture of hot women and hot guys just makes me wonder what is happening to relationships. Are they just as superficial?

    I mean obviously this is based towards the most extreme examples like the women who won't leave the house if it's raining or the guys that must have a well rated girl for a partner.

    For me, the best relationships are where you can both wake up first thing in the morning and find each other just as attractive as any other time.

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    To me it really doesn't matter as long as you aren't I don't know, completely butt-ugly. Serious! I'm not being sentimental or cheesy but it is SOOO the insides! If you are a perfect 10, but your insides are rotten- it's gonna make your outsides look very ugly to me. But if you are a 7, but a good soul- it's gonna make you be a 10 no doubt. Now okay there is a limit. If you are a 2 or 3, there isn't much you can do to raise that above the .... 5 or 6 level, but hey. God gives with one hand, you ugly sack of shit!

    I am physically attractive, but I don't really think about it often. Honestly lol. Once in a great while I like to maybe look in the mirror at what a hot stud I am, but that shit gets boring if you do that more than twice a year. Even though I'm physically attractive, I don't have the physical coordination to go along with it so whatever.

    It's more about 'personal energy' to me. I mean you can have somebody that looks superficially really nice but their inner core just lacks any sort of sexual appeal. Most gay porn stars are like this, sadly. A certain kind of chemistry can make you want to fuck even the ugly. I actually think SMELLS are more important. It's okay to be ugly but ugly and smelly. Ugh. The two seem to go hand in hand I guess.

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    The other thing I'll throw in here is that as you get older (middle-aged like me), putting a bit of work into your appearance doesn't mean you have negative self-esteem.
    If you over do it you either look uptight/too fake or you look like a complete and utter fucktoy that is only purpose is to be somebody's whore. Goes for any age range. You need to give a damn, but don't give a fuck.

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    I think, for me at least, as long as there is an attraction physically then it is all about the personal energy. If you find someone who you find attractive with great energy then that and anything more is a bonus.

    But I think that for a healthy relationship, with sex and trust, then a mutal attraction is important.

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    Yeah, I think it's foolish to understate the importance of appearance. You don't have to be a gorgeous hunk or anything, but if you aren't physically attracted to the person then I don't see what the difference is between that person and a good friend. For example I have many many many male friends, and a few very close male friends, but I wouldn't date any of them because the chemistry isn't there. I'm attracted to their minds and hearts, but not to them on an intimate level.

    Maybe this is more potent as an ENTp? It already takes a lot for me to be comfortable and put myself out in a relationship because I have Fi PoLR, but finding someone physically attractive initially helps me keep up a stronger pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Yeah, I think it's foolish to understate the importance of appearance. You don't have to be a gorgeous hunk or anything, but if you aren't physically attracted to the person then I don't see what the difference is between that person and a good friend. For example I have many many many male friends, and a few very close male friends, but I wouldn't date any of them because the chemistry isn't there. I'm attracted to their minds and hearts, but not to them on an intimate level.

    Maybe this is more potent as an ENTp? It already takes a lot for me to be comfortable and put myself out in a relationship because I have Fi PoLR, but finding someone physically attractive initially helps me keep up a stronger pace.
    Okay, you're an ILE and a 7w6. As am I.

    I can see why we understand each other.

    I think it is harder for ENTp, I mean I myself am very selective about who I become friends with. Not on any superficial level but a 'purity' level. I suppose that's the best way to describe it for me.

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    I would never ask myself questions like these lol.



    Does it make you feel secure ? insecure ? secure, but there's much more to confidence. I do have to look good to feel good in any case.

    Do you actually feel attractive ? Or do you just acknowledge being attractive, while not feeling it ? both

    Does it feel like being socially inadequate ? Does it improve your adequacy ? mostly the latter, but it can also turn ppl against you and lead to forms of estrangement

    Do you feel like being the centre of attention ? Do you fear of being unnoticed or overly noticed ? I don't care too much about attention unless it's about ppl I'm interested in
    Does being attractive and beautiful the same thing for you ? nope. beauty comes from intelligence and personality, attractiveness is mainly physical.

    Does being attractive and good the same thing for you ? whaaaat.

    Do you think being attractive renders others more friendly to you ? more hostile ? both (also depends on "gender")

    Do you feel narcissistic ? self-effaced ? I would call it vanity, not narcissism

    How do you feel when others compliment you about being attractive ? it depends on the person, what they say, and what motives they have.
    Do you suffer your attractiveness ? uhm. there are many other types of attractiveness that would be cool to have, if that was the idea

    How do you feel when some dude/chick is making advances to you ? it depends on what I'm doing and where. If I have stuff on my mind or I'm in a hurry somewhere, I can be very brusque.

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    In my experience I get asked out A LOT. Everywhere I go. Til the point that I'm so used to it.
    Since primary school. All the boys in school had crush on me, I witnessed a fight just because of me, even a boy a year older than me literally failed his class that term so he can re-take it the next year with me, those kind of things. And then uni. Even workplace.
    But I'm so cool with everything, I never act arrogant or mean like those popular girls portrayed on tv.
    I'm not a feeler anyway, I don't make things awkward, I don't hide/cover anything, I actually like to play if he wants to play, I'm good at flirting and reading people.

    So about insecure or secure, I think it relates more to that person's personality. I know I'm physically attractive, but I'm also intelligent, hardworking, strong-willed, ambitious, charmingly assertive.

    Of course I like being the centre of attention, I'm an LIE, an extrovert afterall, but I don't actually care about all that, I like them to pay attention to my achievements better.

    With this one "Do you think being attractive renders others more friendly to you?" Maybe, but I think I naturally have this elegant+polite vibe/energy, everyone around me seems to behave positively, all about respect.

    About the compliments, I get that a lot, "beautiful face" is one of my nicknames growing up, even now when I meet people. I'm just so used to it. But yes, I always respect that and thank them, be polite.
    Last edited by Scarlett; 10-25-2021 at 03:07 PM.

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