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    Default ENTps do you see ISFps as better than yourself?

    ILE only.

    I'm not sure but, usually wander around thinking I guess, that I am superior, unique and just generally different. But SEI's, just seem better than me. And I never think that about anyone. Odd. It's not good.
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    This should be in Alpha, oops!
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    We won't hold it against you....I mean you are flawed after all

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    I might be ILE...

    In some ways I think they're better than me. In other ways, I think I am better than them. We're strong in different areas - that's sort of the point. The strengths cover each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    I am superior

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    I tend to see SEI's better skilled in areas I wish I had skills. They have no problems talking to people they don't know. They are down to earth, and will come up with practical solutions I would have never have thought of to problems. They are great at artistics things. I like the level of detail they give when discussing something that happen to them.


    Also I've seen them get distracted by something, taking place elsewhere in the room, in the middle of conversation and come back right where they left off without missing a beat. Sometimes even hearing what I said while they were distracted, and shooting back with a response. If I did that I would totally forget what was going on, and start talking about something new.


    Oh they are very intelligent too.
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    They have no problems talking to people they don't know.
    That is entirely untrue. Once the other person starts talking or there is an opening when I can start talking, I can talk with Fe and such.

    Last month, after I took the ACT, there was this cute girl who probably had a cell phone. It took me literally 5 minutes to work up the courage to talk to her. So, no, I have problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    That is entirely untrue. Once the other person starts talking or there is an opening when I can start talking, I can talk with Fe and such.

    Last month, after I took the ACT, there was this cute girl who probably had a cell phone. It took me literally 5 minutes to work up the courage to talk to her. So, no, I have problems.
    You are right. What I mean was I percieve the use of Fe and such by SEI as being natural. Therefore I get the sense SEIs talking with strangers is easier for them . I was generalizing. However I do not expect how I precieve something you are doing to be entirely true from your perspective. Especially with a common, isolated situation of a male wanting to talk to a cute girl. Lots of males get that type of anxiety.

    On the other hand, I sporadically talk to people I do not know. I also sporadically talk to people I do know. It's a Fi polr thing. Sometimes I just don't know if I am being well recieved while I feel I should always be well recieved. It is an interest thing too. I tend to talk to people only if I find something unique about them that no one has notice.

    I should also note when I refer to SEIs I am talking mostly about female SEIs. I know quite a few of them. I only know one male SEI who was my manager at my last job. Quite different because of pressure to gender specific roles society tends to place on us.
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    Totally not easy!!!


    I think we can appear to be naturals at talking to starngers, when inside we are most likely shitting ourselves.
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    <3?

    Or are you h8ing on Kam again? I'm still convinced he has a thing for you, or vice versa. You just seem to have a deep seated belief clash/fail.
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    There's no thing.
    I will never desire relations with something as weak as what I have seen over the past month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee View Post
    Totally not easy!!!


    I think we can appear to be naturals at talking to starngers, when inside we are most likely shitting ourselves.
    I would be interested to know more about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    I will never desire relations with something as weak as what I have seen over the past month.
    not cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee View Post
    Totally not easy!!!


    I think we can appear to be naturals at talking to starngers, when inside we are most likely shitting ourselves.
    This is comforting

    I'm not sure about others but I don't shit myself talking to strangers, I just don't feel like I can be arsed sometimes. Wish I could.
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    The male SEI manager I had would say things like that. Would say some off, semi-hurtful shit out of no where to people and almost expect them to not take it serious, like a joke. I'm sure most male SEIs are not like this except maybe the moody ones with a chip on their shoulder.

    I agree. Not cool.
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    I hope people take me seriously, because when I am serious, it's something to get excited about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    ILE only.

    I'm not sure but, usually wander around thinking I guess, that I am superior, unique and just generally different. But SEI's, just seem better than me. And I never think that about anyone. Odd. It's not good.
    they say we feel unworthy of our duals. this is diagnostic of type and relation i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    they say we feel unworthy of our duals. this is diagnostic of type and relation i think.


    I feel that way actually sometimes. Who would want someone as imperfect and weird as me?
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    I really must some stirring up Kam and Allie.....oh but it's so easy!!

    Dammit I want hugs all round- hugs for both of you, or no applesauce!!

    Ah well, you wi n some you lose some. I think I'll sit on the fence and like you both. Kam relax dude, and I will try harder not to stir you.

    I know what you mean- I do feel kinda...err...nuts..most of the time. I guess some people are into that though?
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    I know what's going on

    Allie he's still bent up about your joking over his religion thing a week or so back. I think you may have inadvertently wounded his ethics by playing on the idea of no religion in that whole fight.

    Correct me if I'm wrong Kam?

    I'm an athiest/agnositc/don't care enough to think about it myself, so I'm pretty much sitting on the fence observing.
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    It's ok, he's a teenager, an SEI one at that. He's allowed to be full of angst


    I know I was at his age- hell I was totally nuts at his age!

    I once walked 3 hours to the next town because I was grumpy at my parents at age 16. On my own, in 40 degree C heat. With my phone turned off. Hardcore. Lol.

    *Note that lol was directed at myself, not Kam. Trying not to be condescending here just because I'm older. Possibly failing at it. But yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee View Post
    I know what's going on

    Allie he's still bent up about your joking over his religion thing a week or so back. I think you may have inadvertently wounded his ethics by playing on the idea of no religion in that whole fight.

    Correct me if I'm wrong Kam?

    I'm an athiest/agnositc/don't care enough to think about it myself, so I'm pretty much sitting on the fence observing.
    Nope, if this were true, I'd be pretty pitiful. It'd be pretty sad to be me.

    However, there are ideas that I have been playing over in my mind over the past week that I don't feel like feeding to the wolves today. You could call it angsting, but I think it is good for you at this age. Makes you think.

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    I dub thee red riding hood. Get a tattoo or a piercing or something to help you reflect. Just don't pierce your belly while still drunk the morning after a party like I did- nearly threw up! Mucho pain!!
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    Watch out, Delta has Fi.

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    I wasn't picking on you

    I just told Kam to cure his angst with pain and tattoos
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    Both tattoos and piercings go against my value system.

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    Girl I invented henna. And guys don't wear it. =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post


    I feel that way actually sometimes. Who would want someone as imperfect and weird as me?
    lol your dual, semi dual, illusionary, or activity partner!!

    i actually have felt unworthy of my dual, activity, and illusionary, but not my semi dual for some reason. i think it's because they are logical....they can't really guilt me or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    lol your dual, semi dual, illusionary, or activity partner!!

    i actually have felt unworthy of my dual, activity, and illusionary, but not my semi dual for some reason. i think it's because they are logical....they can't really guilt me or something.

    Ah exactly! I never feel inferior to my semi dual... I can be me more than anything it seems... but things go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    Ah exactly! I never feel inferior to my semi dual... I can be me more than anything it seems... but things go wrong.
    what goes wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    what goes wrong?
    Haha I don't actually know - I just get this feeling of wrongness. That does not make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    Haha I don't actually know - I just get this feeling of wrongness. That does not make sense.
    i've never had any kind of relationship with my semi dual. i once corresponded on line with somebody who looked to be SLI but we never hooked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    i've never had any kind of relationship with my semi dual. i once corresponded on line with somebody who looked to be SLI but we never hooked up.
    That's a shame Hopefully you will meet one that you have some sort of relationship with 'cause they are quite shy outcasted people, they apreciate our understanding to a point. But we don't get much from them I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    As I mine my memory, I think there have been times I've met my dual but circumstances have made it impossible for us to connect more objectively... like they were married or cultural divide.
    This is a shame... it's worth hunting down, it really is. Though I just hate that there's no guarentee it'll become a good friendship/relationship. But it's the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    That's a shame Hopefully you will meet one that you have some sort of relationship with 'cause they are quite shy outcasted people, they apreciate our understanding to a point. But we don't get much from them I don't think.

    i suspect that an SLI would make a great friend. some socionics writers say that ILE and SLI kind of gravitate toward different social groups, though. so i dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    i suspect that an SLI would make a great friend. some socionics writers say that ILE and SLI kind of gravitate toward different social groups, though. so i dunno.
    Yeah definitely... I always see them as sporty, out with the crowd types (who do not fit in)... and then obviously the ILEs probs don't.

    I need to get out more and find such good types!
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    Really? I know two ILE-SLI couples.. One couple is really outdoorsy, and doing quite well - they have both hobbies and a technical background in common. The other one is on the rocks and they don't seem to have much in common or be able to develop anything, for that matter... I always feel like ILEs & SLIs hook up more b/c they'd have more in common... but maybe my impression is warped b/c everyone I know is an engineer and I'm not

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